ccm -
if those bits (cylinder and gang valve) run you more than 70 bucks you can get a charlie-chan (chinese built - no offense intended!) thru Homier. Saw the whole set up today at the truck sale - looks usefull and had several sets of formers too - but for pipe bending. It was a 12 ton ram.
:cheers: Jim
Experience is the BEST Teacher. Is that why it usually arrives in a shower of sparks, flash of light, loud bang, a cloud of smoke, AND -- a BILL to pay? You usually get it -- just after you need it.