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  1. #1
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    Stragenmitsuko's junkyard router , an attempt

    I'm gonna have a go at at a small router .
    Mainly aimed at drilling pcb . I am an EE .

    Let me start by showing off my equipement .

    I have a lathe , a mill , a drill press , a mag and a tig welder .
    A clarckson MKII tool grinder , that one cost me an arm and a leg .
    And lotsa hand tools and small machines like sanders saws etc .

    Anyway , enough to keep me busy
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    So what's with the junkyard then ?

    I plan to build this machine from scrap .
    No fancy lineair rails , no commercial stepper drives .
    If I can avoid it , I won't even buy a single piece of aluminium .

    I do have the advantage that I regularly have to dispose of old lab equippement . Centrifuges , autosamplers , you name it. These machines often have aluminium internals , stepper motors , bearings and parts like that .
    I usually keep things of wich I assume I can use them someday .

    There's also a metal recycling plant nearby . That's where I sell the pieces of metal I don't keep .
    Quite often bars or plates' of alu , brons , stainless can be found there .

    Some pictures of my garage filled with "useless" junk , as my wife tends to call it .
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    The base :

    I found this nice 255*300mm ( 10" by 12" ) aluminium box in my attic
    It's from an old sc/mp uprocessor development kit .
    Late 70's early 80's , something like that .
    Has a nice national semiconductor tag on it .

    It has about the right dimensions for a small pcb drill
    I'l use this box to house the electronics , and the router wil be like the lid of the box .
    Oh , btw , I'm dutch speaking . So forgive me if I sometimes use odd english .
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    I found this 400*900*6mm (16"35*1/4) alu plate at the metal recycling .
    I only need 300*255 , so I used a carbide tipped hack saw to cut a piece
    of approx that dimension .
    300mm is about the maximum travel the saw has .
    But it sure beats cutting it by hand doesn't it ;

    Then I put it on the mill to square up .
    I don't have enough Y axis travel to square it all at once .
    So I had to dial in 3 times .

    Having to dial in anyway , I took off the universal head so that I
    could use the horizontal spindle . Makes it easy to clamp the plate on
    the table .

    Once squared up , holes were drilled and taped to put on the front an back plates later on .
    Picture shows the use of an oldfashioned machanical edge finder , and the center drilling of the bores .
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    While the universal head was off , I made the supports for the x-axis slides .

    These 10mm( 0.4inch) square rods weer salvaged from aluminium wndows and doors .

    Drilled and tapped them to be bolted to the base .
    Later on I'll use a ball mill or a v-groove mill to put on the slides .
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    Time to put the universal head back on .
    And to dial it in .

    Put the base back on the table , and dial it in .

    And then I milled two slots , where the slide supports are supposed to come .
    The slots where drilled to match the previously machined supports .
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    Next I'll be drilling the holes in the x-axis supported rails .

    I've got these nice 22mm(0.9") hard chromed and polished
    rods. Sounds expensive right .
    Not at all , they were salvaged from a pair of worn shock absorbers .

    And a picture of the finished base plate .


    That's it for now .
    More to come within a few day's .
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    Just watching, looks great so far. Nice mill .

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    Today I countersinked the bolts that hold the rail supports and put the supports on .
    These bolts are temporarily , only to be able to machine the v-groove for the rail . Once finished , the tapped holes will be drilled to 6.5mm( 1/4) and the
    rails will be bolted directly to the supports .

    The machining of the v-groove is quite critical , and will be done once the x-axis sliding block is finished .
    So the base is on hold for now .
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    Time to machine the rails .

    Both ends are treaded .
    Don't need those , so I cut them off on the lathe .

    Then the rails were center drilled , and drilled with 5mm .
    There 's a hole every 35,5mm ( 1.40" ) .
    Nine holes a rail , two rails , it took me a while .
    Surprisinghly the hard chromed rail drilled pretty good .
    I was a bit worried drilling trough the chrome would be tough .

    Next tapping the holes .
    I don't have a tapping head .
    So in order to tap straight , I use this simple trick .
    Most tapes and tap holders have a center point at the end .
    It's there for a reason .
    I took a 10mm ( 0.4") rod , and machined a 60° point at one end on the lathe .
    Then I put it in a 10mm collet in the mill , and tightend the collet just enough to allow the rod to slide up and down .

    I grab the rod with my left hand and push it down on the tap holder .
    With my right hand I turn the tap .
    Poor man's tapping machine maybe , but it works like a charm .
    Works also in a drill press btw .

    The result is a dead straight and perpendicular tapped hole .


    Quite pleased with the results .



    I've got an engine swap scheduled on a vintage audi the next couple of day's . Won't be machining much till Friday .
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    Looks pretty cool so far.

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    For the x-axis sliding block I need quite a beefy piece of aluminium .
    60*37*255mm ( 2.3*1.4*10) .
    Wich at first I didn't have , so I thought I'de weld something up .

    But then I remembered this .

    This was once a biopsy cutting machine .
    Used to cut samples of tissue of only a few microns thick .
    Afterwards these cuts could be studied under a microscope .
    This one had to go , so I trashed it , but kept the bottom plate .
    It's almost solid aluminium , exactly what I need .

    The carbide tipped shorten saw didn't like these heavy cuts . I really ought to get me a bandsaw
    someday . Anyway , I cut it up in some handy pieces wich I'm sure will come to use later .
    And the center section is exactly what I need for the x sliding block .

    Should be fun squaring up
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    The downside of using scrap material is that there are alway's some
    unwanted bores or slots .
    They don't necesarily interfere with anything . But it just doesn't look
    good .
    So I machined some plugs , pressed and welded them in .
    I'm not the wolds best welder , but when the excess material is milled off , it doesn't look to bad .

    Then the block was squared up and milled to size .
    Somehow I just can't seem to produce those bright shiny finishes
    some people can .
    I've tried various speeds and feeds . Dry and wet cut's .
    Those mirror like finishes I wonder how it's done .

    Finally , I made the 28mm ( 1.10") bores wich will receive the lineair
    bearings .
    I don't have an iso to morse taper . So I driled it with 16mm , the largest drill I have with a staight shaft . And then I had to use a boring bar .
    Time consuming process , but it works .
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    Quote Originally Posted by stragenmitsuko View Post
    Somehow I just can't seem to produce those bright shiny finishes
    some people can .
    I've tried various speeds and feeds . Dry and wet cut's .
    Those mirror like finishes I wonder how it's done.
    It may have to do with the specific alloys used. I know that each different aluminum alloy machines differently; some are harder, some are softer. Some machine with nice glassy finishes, some don't. I assume that has something to do with it

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    Yes , that is quite possible . Some alloy's are so soft , it's almost like milling a block of toothpaste . With chips stcking to the cutting tools , alway's ending up in rough surfaces .


    Anyway , Iv' machined some bronze busses to be pressed in the sliding block .
    These will be my bearings ;

    They were supposed to be a very light fit .
    I've knurled the surface , coated them with locktite and pressed them in .
    WIth the knurling acting as miniature pockets filled with locktite .
    The rason, for this is not to put any strain on the sliding block .

    Unfortiunatly I must have measured something wrong , as the fit was rather tight . Had to press the min with the hydraulic press .
    Took 3 ton to get them in , wich is way to much .

    As I had feared , the tight fit caused a few tenth's ( mm not inches ) of warpage .
    So I milled off the excess material to get it straight again .

    THen all kinds of holes were drilled and tapped .
    And the two sliding bores were made using the boring/facing head .
    This boring head is a bit to large for my small mill .
    With the boring head , and the cutting tool , I'm limited to 7cm (2.75") of y axis travel . Just enough to drill the block .
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    A friend was kind enough to provide a 22mm ball nose mill .
    I have to give it back offcourse , but I 'm very glad he allowed me to use it .
    Far better then a v-groove .

    So I gave the supports a final pass to clean them up and bring to to size .
    And then I milled both 22m grooves .
    For some reason , this finish is quite good .

    Finally two slots were milled to the sliding block .
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    Time to clean up , debur and put it all together .

    The lineair slides are parallel down to 0.01mm .

    The sliding block fits and moves at the tip of a finger .
    I would have preferred it to be a tiny little bit tighter .
    But it'll do fine .
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    That looks great. I'm surprised it took 3 tons to get those suckers in! :O

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    This is a cool thread!

    Do you have a drawing (or even a crude sketch) of the machine configuration?

    The build photos are great but it would be nice to imagine how the pieces are finally going to go together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse B View Post
    I'm surprised it took 3 tons to get those suckers in! :O
    Yes , that was way to tight .
    I think I've pushed the zero button of the digital calipers when it wasn't at zero . Maybe some debris , don't know .
    I was worried that it would warrp back when I milled the slots for the slide supports . That would have ruined the part as the slides would no longer fit the bores . Luckily that didn't happen .

    Quote Originally Posted by RomanLini View Post
    Do you have a drawing (or even a crude sketch) of the machine configuration?
    Not really .
    I have it in my head , but that's kinda hard to upload .

    Parts are designed in cad as I go along .
    But I don't have an assembly drawing .

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