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  1. #1
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    Control will "punch" but not "read"

    Control is a fanuc 3m. It will consistently punch programs from the control to the PC, but will not go the other way. Is there a way to check the RS232 port on the CNC? I have a lighted 9 pin box between the pc and the CNC everything looks good there. I shows data coming in when punching, and data going out after I hit input on the control (I have "wait for XON" enabled). The control however just blinks LSK and never registars a new program number or writes the program to memeory. There are no alarms generated. I also know that the cable form the PC to the CNC is good. Can anyone suggest a repair company? I may have to send the main board off to be repaired.


    Dan

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    Hi Dan,

    3 questions:

    1. Where are you located?
    2. Have you tried sending back the same program you punched out?
    3. What software are you using to send/receive?

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    I am in central Washington State.

    I have tried sending exactly what was punched (it puts a &he:% at the top/first line of the program).

    I am using NCnet-lite from cadem.

    I was thinking of pulling the main board, and tracing the circut from the RD pin of the honda connector (pin 8 or 9 I cannot remember). Maybe I have a bad connector or loose solder joint or something. What do you think? Have you ever seen a serial port go "half" bad? I have only seen them work, or not work.

    Thanks,


    Dan

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    The hardware handshake can go bad for either send or receive.
    If you have the hardware pins connected, i.e. full complement cable, it could also be your PC.
    I generally use a 3 wire cable with the H.S. jumpered out as although Fanuc has to see the H.W. signals, they do not use them for data control, just the XON/XOFF.
    Also, on some controls, the % sign indicates end of transmission or turn tape off.
    This is the 6m but the pin out is the same.
    Al.
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    Al,

    Thanks for the info! The cable I made has a 20 pin male honda one one end and a female DB-9 and is wired lke so:

    Honda----------------- 9 pin

    9 (SD) ------------- 2 (RD)
    8 (RD) ------------- 3 (TD)
    17 (SG) ------------- 5 (SG)

    on the fanuc side I joined:

    5 (ER)--
    18 (DR)--
    16 (CD)--


    and:

    19 (CS)--
    20 (RS)--


    On the PC side I joined

    1 (DCD)--
    4 (DTR)--
    6 (DSR)--


    and:

    7 (RTS)--
    8 (CTS)--


    Does that seem correct to you too? The programs I have tried to send start and end with a %. Does there need to be a LF or CR after or before the program? Seems like I remember dealing with a control like that one time.

    Dan

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    Looks about right, this is where a break-out box comes in handy, you can see the status of the ports on the LED's.
    Most electronic component stores have them, they are usually under $20.00
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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    I have one. I have put it in between the pc and the cable. It shows data going to and comming from the PC. Pins 2 and 3 are all I really watched.

    One strange thing though. I always make sure that I have the CNC powered on before I power on the laptop. It seems to help with any port initialization problems. Anyway when I first start everything all the lights are green (except RI and GND, they are not on at all). After I send a file to the laptop some lights stay red. It is able to recieve another program so I assume that this is normal.

    I have tried to send a program to the CNC after startup thinking that somthing was not being reset, but I got the same results.


    Dan

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    Does anyone know of a way to test the 20 pin honda socket on a main board?

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