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  1. #1
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    Smile Reduce spindle rpm

    Hi,

    I am new to CNCZone. I have toyoda FA450 HMC having Fanuc 15M controller. It has spindle speed range of 100-12000 rpm. I have taping operation in one of my job which needs 50 rpm spindle speed. when I execute M3 S50 command, it shows following error;
    AL26 S-code out of range
    AL33 S-Code instruction nothing.

    I understand that my spindle speed value is 50 which is not in range. is there any way to change spindle speed range to "50 - 12000 or less rpm" instead of "100-12000 rpm"

    Thanks in advance,
    Mukesh

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    See if S100 with spindle override set to 50% works.

    Otherwise, use S100 instead of S50, and adjust your feedrate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinha_nsit View Post
    See if S100 with spindle override set to 50% works.

    Otherwise, use S100 instead of S50, and adjust your feedrate.
    i have tried the override option but it doesn't work below 100 rpm. and afterall i am running tapping cycle so override function never work in this.
    Feedrate adjustment is also not possible as the threaded hole is big and it required very slow spindle speed.

    thanks

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    Try threadmilling instead.

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    Why cann't you increase the feedrate, to suit a higher rpm (assuming yiou are in G94 mode)? 100 rpm is not too high.

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    Being a 12K spindle, its most likely an integral or direct drive spindle. Even if you changed a parameter to run at 50RPM, it's gonna stall the spindle anyway. Get a better tap and use more RPM, even 100 RPM on a high speed spindle could be bad.

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    At the risk of piling on, I agree that figuring out a way to go 50 RPM isn't desireable. Most FANUC spindle motors have 100:1 regulation ratio (max speed compared to lowest speed that they can hold). A 12000 RPM spindle should be able to regulate speed well down to 120 RPM. 100 RPM is likely do-able. 50 RPM is rather low and may not hold speed well enough. There's a reason the machine builder posts the message of insufficient RPM at 100 RPM. I agree they should tap at a higher RPM.

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    set your spindle speed at 100 rpm then divide the spindle speed by the number of threads per inch will give you your feedrate. A toyota should be fine running at 100 rpm. you didnt say how big of a tap you are running. If you are afraid of stalling the motor I would just run tap deep enough to start the threads then hand tap.
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    or use F=<pitch> in G74/G84, with G95.

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