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    New Machine Build - Need design advice

    Hi,

    I am totally new to CNC world and want to build rigid CNC primary for aluminum and steel work, sometimes wood.

    So, my axis: X = 78" / Y = 39" / Z = 30-35"

    I am considering dual “Skate bearing” homemade system for my Y axis.
    Can someone comment on such a design, any cons, pros?

    Thanks in advance


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    If you are wanting to do any work in steel, you need a completely different design. A heavy duty router might be able to do some light milling in aluminum. No problem in wood, but steel? Not really. There are many reasons why.

    Take a look in the forums here.

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=48

    That link shows routers and build logs for them. Stroll through those to see what different types of designs have been used.

    Now look at mills here.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=221

    You will see that they are decidedly different designs and parameters.

    Welcome aboard.
    Lee

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    you'll never be able to mill aluminum with a 30-35" long skate bearing Z axis, you'll probably have alot of trouble with wood even.

    Why do you need that much Z travel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeeWay View Post
    No problem in wood, but steel? Not really. There are many reasons why.
    Thanks. At last I have found one thread about steel milling machine. They are huge

    So for now I will limit with aluminium and wood.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phife View Post
    you'll never be able to mill aluminum with a 30-35" long skate bearing Z axis, you'll probably have alot of trouble with wood even.

    Why do you need that much Z travel?
    I am producing some wooden 67" benches from 1.5" planks, I am using only hand tools at the moment Also I am very interested in small aluminium parts for RC helicopters.

    At this moment I am new to CNC world, but I am learning I have found lots of threads about linear motions systems but unfortunately found no information about skate bearing.

    So why skate bearing is bad choice?

    What is your suggestion?

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    So you need three machines. One giant saw bench and a drill press for making the benches. And a benchtop mill for the helicopter parts.

    Benchtop mills come in different flavours. For steel - my benchtop mill has a Z travel of about 6 inches and weighs 400 pounds. The bench is another 150 pounds. I have a friend who does well with plastic and aluminium with a Taig, which is lighter. Up at your sizes it will be tons, many tons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UUU View Post
    So you need three machines. One giant saw bench and a drill press for making the benches. And a benchtop mill for the helicopter parts.

    Benchtop mills come in different flavours. For steel - my benchtop mill has a Z travel of about 6 inches and weighs 400 pounds. The bench is another 150 pounds. I have a friend who does well with plastic and aluminium with a Taig, which is lighter. Up at your sizes it will be tons, many tons.
    I got it

    The reason for such a high Z axis was thought to upgrade my machine to 5-axis with B/C Drive in the future, at this moment I don't need such high Z-axis.

    My bench have a lot of shaped parts, please take a look what I am talking about http://pdfcast.org/pdf/swing
    I need CNC only for shaped parts, straight parts not a problem for me.

    Maybe such a machine would be capable for such a wooden shapes and for small aluminium parts? http://www.cnczone.com/forums/showth...=522970&page=3

    P.S. Sorry for my poor engligh

    Thank you

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