[AndrewJP]

What are some other machines that are around the same price and performance as Haas machines besides Fadals?

[KevinWilkins]

Haas has a very broad range of machines so I don't think there is any one answer to your question.

If you could narrow it down to a single Haas machine, that would make it easier.

I have a TM1 and in that class of machine I don't think Haas has any competition. Fadal use to make a toolroom mill but I believe they discontinued it.

[AndrewJP]

Haas has a very broad range of machines so I don't think there is any one answer to your question.

If you could narrow it down to a single Haas machine, that would make it easier.

I have a TM1 and in that class of machine I don't think Haas has any competition. Fadal use to make a toolroom mill but I believe they discontinued it.

The Haas VF-3ss

[l u k e]

Dont know about "performance" but price was compairable when I was looking.

http://www.hurco.com/usa/Pages/default.aspx

[underthetire]

Dont know about "performance" but price was compairable when I was looking.

http://www.hurco.com/usa/Pages/default.aspx

I can honestly say Hurco does not compare to HAAS. Our HAAS machines never break. This question has been asked a 100X on this forum. What HAAS are we talking about?

[Cmailco]

The VF-SS series are very capable machines and my first experience with one... I was impressed with the performance.

If you have the ability to drive high-speed toolpaths, then the machines are capable enough for most general CNC work.

Haas is the Coca-Cola of the machine tool world. They do an excellent job with marketing, have a good product for most machining environments and back that product with good customer support. They've become as American as apple pie while overshadowing better domestic-built machines in this category, like the Hardinge XR-series. Then again, Hardinge is multi-national, like so many large companies these days. If you look under the hood of any of them, you'll find lots of Japanese and European parts, so it's all a matter of picking the tool that fits your budget and can get the work out there door. Haas is plenty capable of delivering on that front.

[MBG]

milltronics? Also made in america.

[glovebox20]

I've heard good things about Doosan and Hyundai-Kia machines. Don't know there price range though. I personally think Hurco's are not any less reliable than HAAS, but both have there up's and downs. I think Hurco's are more rigid and easier to program on the shop floor while HAAS are better suited in the production/CAD-CAM environment.

glovebox20

[Ed_R]

what are you wanting to make? what materials? what tolerances? what sizes? your workload should determine your choices.