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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    I have sold mine, but IIRC the number is on it.
    If so try DigiKey.
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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Well I couldn't find one locally, so I ordered one. Hopefully it fixes the problem.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Can we assume this is a G540 as well? Why not use the Spindle in the motor config. You will need to setup the motor tuning page anyway. As well, I found I needed an extra output and ended up using a pin on a second parallel port. I had built a CRP48x48 with SuperPID, G540 and ethernet smooth stepper. Unfortunately, I've recently upgraded to a VFD spindle. I think I might have a copy of my XML kicking about. You would need to check very carefully all the settings, but I had everything working. run/stop along with mach control of the speed. email here and I'll send you a XML Colten
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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Thanks Colten,I use the XML from the CNC router parts site ,that setup work good,the machine move and can be controlled from Mach3, it's the spindle settings for super pid the one not working

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Help a lot!,thanks Andew,going to correct that as soon as a get home today,but probably going to need need with the output settings

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    I correct the settings and read Mach3 manual one more time,still have confusion how to set the step pin# dir pin#

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    Quote Originally Posted by javy0311 View Post
    I correct the settings and read Mach3 manual one more time,still have confusion how to set the step pin# dir pin#
    The Spindle step pin # is the pin number that you're using for the PWM signal to the super pid. You don't need a direction pin.
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    The Spindle step pin # is the pin number that you're using for the PWM signal to the super pid. You don't need a direction pin.
    Unless you want to use a left-handed cutter. The you will need the Dir pin.
    Yes, LH cutters have some value in special situations, such as machining something which has been screwed down with a RH thread. I use them myself.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    I'm using a G540 with a SPID and it works great. I set the speed that I want in the CAM and Mach3 controls the router speed (it also turns the router on and off). It works great. Here is a link to the relevant post in my build thread.
    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/cnc-wo...ml#post1276882

    I originally put a switch on the SPID that would allow me to manually control the speed with a pot, but I have only used it once (to see if it worked). I'm thinking about removing it as I don't see much need for it.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    sorry for a delay in my answer but forum has been whit problems ,all up and running,a little issue with the rpm betwen Mach and super pid,thanks guys for help me

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    The SuperPID receives the PWM signal over the step pin, and does not use the direction pin.

    Are you saying your'e spinning the spindle backwards (CCW) with a SuperPID?
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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Hi Gerry
    The SuperPID receives the PWM signal over the step pin, and does not use the direction pin.
    Are you saying your'e spinning the spindle backwards (CCW) with a SuperPID?
    Yes, I do run the spindle CCW with left-hand cutters, but no, I am not using a SuperPID, just Mach3 driving a spindle servo supply.
    My apologies if this thread is all about the SuperPID: I was just pointing out thatsometimes one wants to go CCW on a mill. Of course, on a lathe one does it often for all sorts of reasons.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    test, ignore..

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Super PID is mainly designed for series (UNi-Diir) motor spindles, If one wanted reverse capability, you would need to go into the router/spindle and bring the field and armature connections out separately and set up a reversing relay.
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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Can I use The low voltage power input to trigger other relays also or will that screw with the pid. I want to put my vacuum and air compressor on the panel with the pid stuff. It would not be pulling high voltage power from the pid. Just the 5v before it goes into the pid to trigger relays.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Quote Originally Posted by tatinc2000 View Post
    Can I use The low voltage power input to trigger other relays also or will that screw with the pid. I want to put my vacuum and air compressor on the panel with the pid stuff. It would not be pulling high voltage power from the pid. Just the 5v before it goes into the pid to trigger relays.
    If you use SSR's they consume very little current and should not be a burden to a 5v supply.
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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    I just want to say I love the SuperPID, it has been great and I've just been using it with a low cost cheap router. Support from Val is always excellent before and after the sale.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    You might (will) find some optical isolation between 5V signals and power would be a really good thing. Many SSRs include that anyhow.

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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    Although SSR's give you a transition from the P.P. or PC power supply 5v to AC control, they do not always provide Galvanic isolation due the the P.C. P.S. being at earth ground and also the AC motors/devices are also, due to neutral also being at earth ground, but usually not a problem.
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    Re: Super-PID new low-cost router speed controller

    My Dremel has a top speed of 35k-rpm. Will that top end be lost with Super-PID?

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