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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    MSimpson,

    In the second video, what is that material? It looks like it's burning??
    It looks like white faced hard board to me Gerry.? . . . That would give the apperance of burning.! (Plus the furing round the edge's)

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    Yes the second vid is on Faced hardboard at 20000 RPM. What is cool is the cut-2D lets you set up your tools RPM and I no longer have to manualy set my spindle speed. Which I forgot to do most of the time.

    The first vid is at 5000 RPM.


    The only down side is MACH3. When I first start it up and go to the MDI screen if I turn on the spindle with the RPM set to 0 it runs away at max RPM until I hit thr reset. Then ever thing works good. Thats def a MAch3 issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msimpson99 View Post


    The only down side is MACH3. When I first start it up and go to the MDI screen if I turn on the spindle with the RPM set to 0 it runs away at max RPM until I hit thr reset. Then ever thing works good. Thats def a MAch3 issue.
    Do you have Mach3 turning it on and off with the run input on the super pid?

    Try putting S5000 in your initialization string in General Config.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
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    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
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    Quote Originally Posted by msimpson99 View Post

    The only down side is MACH3. When I first start it up and go to the MDI screen if I turn on the spindle with the RPM set to 0 it runs away at max RPM until I hit the reset. Then ever thing works good. Thats def a MAch3 issue.
    I think this may be a configuration issue. Just got my Super-PID wired for Mach3 speed control last night, and I didn't see this.

    I'll do some testing later, to see if I can confirm it though.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    @ ger21
    I am using the run option to control with MAch. I used a relay to provide the proper level. I also am using the relay to switch on my vacume system so it was a no brainer on that end.

    I did set the S register to 5000 in the initilation string and this fixed the problem with MAch freaking out with a zero value.

    @RomanLini
    I left the old resister in place and used a 47K in parallel with the old.

    Mach3 has enough control to tweak so you dont get any hunting. I have enough delay that mach3 is just using the feedback to get the speed set then once its naild it settls down. SPID does all the instantainious work. Those veriations are too fast for MAch3 to catch with my settings.

    I did use MAch3 auto tune but it was kind of lost in the low rpms. I just could not get the manual (non closed loop) to work very well. Probably some of my settings.


    I have not had a lot of time to play woth the router much as this was a new router mount and I am just now adding mounts for dust collection.

    I am now ready to move to my second router a larger Dewalt. I have already removed the electronics and switch from the router. PRoblem is I need a new sensor set. I dont want to remove the sensor from the last one.

    Any change you would be willing to give some specs for us engineers so we can wire our own sensors. Would save me some time frime having to go thorugh a test phase to come up with my own IR led and Photo Transistor.
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