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  1. #2721
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    And make sure to use waterproof glue. Titebond and elmer's wood glue are awesome for inside, but it'll soften up if used outside. Gorilla glue or an equivalemt PVA cement and clamps (always) is theway to go for outside.

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ID:	191396Now I'm worried it'll fall apart after a year :/ Anyways here's the sign with the first coat of poly applied.
    Colten Edwards http://www.cncsigns.ca

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    Quote Originally Posted by cd_edwards View Post
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ID:	191396Now I'm worried it'll fall apart after a year :/ Anyways here's the sign with the first coat of poly applied.
    Probably not, if it is an indoor sign. If it is an outdoor sign and placed where it is not affected by sun and rain, it will still hold up for a couple of years. If it is made of MDF as I think you said it is, then you probably can't put enough poly on it to keep it from deteriorating in the sun and rain. UV and rain is tough on any wood product.
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  4. #2724
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    Quote Originally Posted by CarveOne View Post
    Probably not, if it is an indoor sign. If it is an outdoor sign and placed where it is not affected by sun and rain, it will still hold up for a couple of years. If it is made of MDF as I think you said it is, then you probably can't put enough poly on it to keep it from deteriorating in the sun and rain. UV and rain is tough on any wood product.
    I thought he said it was 2 inch thick Maple!

  5. #2725
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    Defniitely maple. no MDF on this one.
    Colten Edwards http://www.cncsigns.ca

  6. #2726
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    I was thrown off by the way the Quick Reply button sends the Firefox browser down to the bottom of the post list and I saw that post #2673 had mention of using 3/4" MDF or 1/2", so I assumed that was what the latest sign is using. My error.
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  7. #2727
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    The online order was placed for the Grizzly Industrial G4030 metal cutting band saw this morning.

    Meanwhile the horse trailer restoration project is top priority around my place. The heat and frequent rains have been slowing us down, but we keep at it. There is no CNC machine work underway at the moment but there are some on my waiting list.

    The hot rod dash panel project has changed recently but it is still awaiting the frame and newly re-painted fiberglass body and frame are almost ready to go pick them up.
    CarveOne
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  8. #2728
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    The Grizzly G4030 band saw will be picked up tomorrow at the UPS freight terminal in Richmond, Va.

    Today I picked up an Ingersoll Rand 5hp two stage 80 gallon 175 psi air compressor from the local Tractor Supply. It's a big fat one It will be plumbed for a quick-connect air hose connection at the garage door, a couple of overhead connections inside the work shop, and one connection outside at the tank.

    These will be used to build, prep, and paint the new frame for the big CNC machine and for all future projects.
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  9. #2729
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    There is nothing like having compressed air where and when you need it.

    Mike
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    What I have had for many years is an old 30 gallon 1hp upright two wheel roll around thing with a diaphragm type compressor. The new one will be loud but hopefully not have the ear splitting sharp and loud sound. Sounds like a chain saw at 2/3 throttle in the shop. Who knows, I might like this one so much I re-paint my '95 pick-em-up-truck in the yard with it. While I'm plumbing there will be an outside connection in the right location for it.

    Early this morning I confirmed with UPS Freight Service that I will pick up the metal cutting band saw at their terminal before noon today.
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  11. #2731
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    find a separate room to install your compressor and pipe the air to your workshop. A closet, the garage, the neighbor's house; all good locations so you don't have to listen to it when its running.

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    It will be in a shelter outside the work shop. The air plumbing will go through the wall inside a PVC pipe that has foam tubing in it to keep vibrations from resonating the wall like a large sounding board. Being mounted on a solid concrete slab not connected to the building will also help isolate the noise.
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    You really shouldn't use PVC for compressed air. If you meant a PVC sleeve, disregard this comment.

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    [QUOTE=CarveOne; The air plumbing will go through the wall inside a PVC pipe that has foam tubing in it to keep vibrations from resonating the wall like a large sounding board. [/QUOTE]
    Compressed air and PVC pipe = potential bomb! Been there, done that, and fortuantely was not close to it when it granaded! I was outside of the shop when it blew and I found slivers of it for weeks after all over the place and imbedded into some of the 2x4 studs:{(
    It is pretty well documented that you should not use PVC pipe in pressurized air systems.

    Agree with the above poster if you mean a sleeve.
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    Sounds like he's just using the PVC as an insulated sleeve.
    They do make an ABS pipe for compressed air use, called Duraplus.
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  16. #2736
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    Yes, the PVC pipe idea is just a sleeve through the wall that can be sealed to the vinyl siding and the inside wall paneling, not the air distribution line. The black foam sleeving was an idea to act as a cushion so that the air distribution pipe would not vibrate against the PVC pipe and would plug the hole to the outside air. I knew of the ABS plastic air line but will probably use what most shops traditionally use.
    CarveOne
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  17. #2737
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    The trip to Richmond went uneventfully until on the way back I almost ran over a complete exhaust stack from a tractor trailer that was laying across my lane on I-95. Fortunately, there were no other vehicles around me that were close enough to prevent my changing lanes to avoid running over it. Hopefully no one else did either. That thing was BIG! The truck was stopped about a mile south of the location and no effort was being made to find and remove the rather large object from the road. A VA highway patrol car was near the truck still laying in wait for speeders. Duh!

    After removing the crate from the G4030 band saw I now have this beauty. The tan color even matches the new air compressor. It runs fine and there is no damage to it from shipping. The two spare blades for it arrived while we were away. Looks like it will be a good addition to the shop. The back side is open, and there is a removable cutting fluid tank inside. I have an unused gallon of Brownell's cutting fluid to install in it that I bought a few years ago. Hopefully it's still ok. Gonna try it out on something tomorrow morning.
    CarveOne
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  18. #2738
    Nice saw Carv'e
    Too big for my little shop
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  19. #2739
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    That looks very similar to the Vectrax (sp) that I have. It is real nice with the 3 speed lever changed gear box. So much nicer than changing pulleys.
    The construction and accuracy are much nicer than the cheap 5" saw like I used to have.

    Hey Widgitmaster. Make room for it. It is amazing how you never needed it until you get one and then you can't figure out how you ever got anything done without it.


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    Thanks Eric. It has a couple of small design issues that can be resolved. The worst one is that it has four small wheels and none of them swivel. Makes it hard to move it around the shop since one end has to be lifted a little to redirect it. I think I can figure out a solution to that, and also add a way to make it stay put once it gets from a storage area to where I want to use it. I have an unused adjustable steel dolly that I bought for a table saw I no longer have. I think it may work if it can be reshaped to fit this saw frame.

    In a way, this one is physically not that much larger than than the other saw because the other saw has a taller steel stand. The new one is a little longer but a lot lower.
    The new saw is a lot beefier with the heavy cast iron parts. It's low enough that it just may fit under a work bench along one wall when not in use. I'll check on that today.
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