[Mammoth Designs]

I just bought a new router that has WinCNC on the computer. My old router runs Mach3 and thats what I know how to run and have been using Lazycam to produce the .TAP files.

I've got the new router up and runnning and have read the WinCNC manual. I have setup everything to my satisfaction and am ready to run a file but all my .TAP files that I created previously are not working in WinCNC. It keeps giving me the following message: Error - Syntax - Command or File Not Found.

As far as I've been able to find, WinCNC states that just about any CAM program can work with WinCNC. I know that Lazycam is a part of Mach3 and that the two work together great so I am wondering if I need to get a different CAM program. Even thought that means reworking all of my files that I have created.

All thoughts are greatly appreciated.

[Bubba]

I am not familiar with WinCNC, but by default, it may be looking for a different file extension than .tap. You should be able to change that in your "options" someplace.

Also, are the g-codes and their syntax the same for WinCNC and Mach? I don't know the answer to that one either but this is the exact reason it is difficult to share code files on different machines.

[adprinter]

The gcode files are simply Text files. You might try simply renaming the desired file. If WinCNC is looking for an NC file for example, then rename the file "Test.TAP" as "Test.NC" and see if WinCNC will open it. I am not at all familiar with WinCNC, but am familiar with computers. And the message you are getting, is related to a particular file naming convention used by the software. In other words, the file may actually be exactly the type of file the software needs in terms of what the file actually contains, but the software just doesn't recognize the name. (*.TAP vs *.NC as in the above example).

[daisydog]

Hi,

Have you tried using one g-code per line?, that' a Win requirment it does not like multi g-code instating to start a file. also it may not be capable of using some of the commands that Mach uses.

I have a Shop Sabre with a Win controller, they are kind of quirky and if I were you I would try to use Mach with the new machine. I know the Win is an expensive controller but from what I have read and experienced it is not as capable or any more dependable than Mach, it is also not as user friendly.

I have recently bought a used Multicam and replaced the controller with Mach and prefer by far over the WinCnc. When making adjustments to the control program in Mach I go to the proper screen and using plain English make the adjustments and Mach takes care of the rest. In Win you have to go to a file (one of many) and hope that its the right one, than make the adjustments you would like using a computer language of symbols letters and numbers.

That being said the Win is very capable if somewhat overrated.

Good Luck,

[WinCNCGuy]

If you paste a sample of a file that won't work here, I will try to tell you why it won't work.

Syntax errors means that the file has something in it that the controller does not understand. Could be a tool change command, could be a G Code that is not defined, could be something else. It will not likely be multiple commands on the same line. You usually get an error message to that effect for that.

WinCNC has one screen, not multiple. WinCNC has a couple of files that do the setup. The wincnc.ini file is the main one. Don't change this unless you are very experienced or someone who knows WinCNC instructs you to. The cncscrn.ini file is for setting up the control screen.

Instructions for setting up this screen are in the WinCNC manual available on our website, wincnc. The manual also explains many of the settings in the wincnc.ini file.

Daisydog, this is not the place for discussing your complaints about WinCNC, but if you'll message me I will try to help you. We think WinCNC is very user friendly. It has one user screen and if it is set up correctly it is extremely easy to use.

Mike from WinCNC

[WinCNCGuy]

By the way, WinCNC uses text files. The default is usually ".tap", but it all depends on what it is set up for.

In fact, the controller does not care what the extension is. If you can get it to see the file (click the arrow and select all files), and it's a text file that can be read in Notepad, WinCNC will try to run it.

If it is not in the correct G-Code format, you might get errors, but the controller will try to run it.

Oh, by the way, you can click the Simulate button and it will tell you what line the error is on.

Mike

[daisydog]

Hello All,

Mike criticism is not complaining. Pointing out a products strong points and weak ones is o.k. as long as they are given honestly with no malice . You may not agree with my opinions and you may want to debate my facts, that's o.k. , that's what forums are for. If you would like to censure or filter contrary thoughts you should ask WinCnc to re-open the forum on it's web page.

You cannot honestly be suggesting WinCnc is as user friendly as Mach or anymore capable for that matter.

In WinCnc's favor they do supply top notch support and have a friendly knowledgeable staff. WinCnc is easy to use after it is setup, however setting it up or making changes without the staff helping you is not easy and can lead to serious mistakes, it says so in their manual.

Mike thanks for your offer . I am comfortable making adjustments in the wincnc.ini. file. When I need support the staff at ShopSabre are very helpful and they have been using WinCnc for years. When they can't figure it out they call you guys at WinCnc and get back to me. The support chain works well and they give free support for life.

The cncscrn.ini. file is the real bugger. What I would like to see is a detailed section in the manual on how to build a screen. The instructions in the manual assume that you already know the meaning of the colors, symbols, numbers and abbreviations that are used. The manual does touch on this but not enough. Now this maybe an easy file to adjust and the instructions easy to understand but not if the meaning of the symbols used to make adjustments is not understood.

If the WinCnc manual would use a detailed example or two using illustrations of a screen being built screen building would probably be doable by the average WinCnc user. The screen I use is good but other than being able to adjust four of the buttons I have to use it the way it is. I would like to make some other changes but have not been able to because I cannot figure out the manuals instructions.

Let me know your thoughts on this.


Sincerely,

Daisydog

[WinCNCGuy]

I won't knock Mach. They make a good controller and I'm not going to bash them.

Wincnc can do automatic tool changer, Wincnc can run I-Cut, Wincnc can run a file while you are designing your next part on the same PC, as far as that goes, I can run Wincnc while I check the weather or debate controllers with you here on the same PC, I can digitize on a rotary axis with a touch probe.

I think user friendly is in the eye of the beholder. I can say Wincnc is easier. I can do anything with it. I can't with Mach.

Sorry if this is not what you want to hear,

Mike

[daisydog]

Hi WinCnc Mike,

You should be happy that you like Win so much and just ignore the fact other controllers are out there. Some are both cheaper and in the opinion of many better and some aren't.

Now get that chip off your shoulder and get on with your life.

Over and Out,

Daisydog

[Cut to the Bone]

I have to say I do like WinCNC better than Mach. I have extensive use on both and have to go with the support. Mach is a good controller but as far as the stability of the program the check mark goes to wincnc. I have seen lots of forums where the war goes back and forth from Mach to industrial controls and to wincnc.
The rule of thumb here is get something you like and feel comfortable with running. WinCNC for me is the best choice. I have ran $250K routers with stand-alone industrial controls (no names). Those are good as well but have a limitation. One of the most noticeable is the amount of lines you can feed it. Some only about 50,000 and then it freaks out. All I can say I have pulled Mach off of routers and replaced it with WinCNC more than I have the other way around. Wait I have never pulled WinCNC off and put Mach on a machine.
To make the screen you own is not hard at all. Mach does have the GUI (Graphical User Interface) down using some VB. But with very little time you can get the screen just as you like it.
Here is a view of the WinCNC screen from The CAMaster Stinger and the code to make the screen.


[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***CAMaster CNC WinCNC Screen Made 1/15/2010 by: Joey]
[
[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***LOG***]
[***ALL CHANGES SHOULD BE LISTED AND DATED HERE]

[ ADDED SERVO LINE NEEDS BTN MADE 2-18-2010 : FM

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[Display Sections - THIS DEALS WITH TOTAL SIZE AND LAYOUT OF SCREEN]

"Display", "Title", "CAMaster VisualCNC Control Panel"
"Display", "Main Window", 0, 0, 1024, 768
"Display", "Main Color", 180, 180, 180
"Display", "Position", 20, 280, 255, 170, 1
"Display", "Viewer", 660, 47, 342, 475
"Display", "Command", 15, 35, 470, 223
"Display", "ButtonSet", 0, 0, 1024, 768

[Program Icon-THIS CHANGES THE DESKTOP ICON FOR PROGRAM]
"Icon", "CAMPRO.ico"

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***JOG CONTROLS FOR ROUTER***]

["AxisControl", Left, Top, Width, Height, Axis, Direction, Unused, Unused, Unused, ScanOn, ScanOff, Bitmap, Group]

[***SPEED AND INCREMENT CONTROLS***]

["JogMode", Left, Top, Width, Height, Mode, Unused, Label, Unused, Unused, ScanOn, ScanOff, Bitmap, Group]
"JogModeEX",170,560,20,20,7,0,"Fast","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1
"JogModeEX",170,585,20,20,6,0,"Med","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1
"JogModeEX",170,609,20,20,5,0,"Slow","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1
"JogModeEX",43,552,20,20,4,0,"1","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1
"JogModeEX",43,574,20,20,3,0,".1","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1
"JogModeEX",43,598,20,20,2,0,".01","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1
"JogModeEX",43,624,20,20,1,0,".001","","",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1

[Jog X Axis]
"AxisControl",441,610,50,50,0,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_rightX.bmp", 1
"AxisControl",328,610,50,50,0,0,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_leftX.bmp", 1

[Jog Y Axis]
"AxisControl",385,550,50,50,1,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_upY.bmp", 1
"AxisControl",385,610,50,50,1,0,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_downY.bmp", 1

[Jog Z Axis]
"AxisControl",518,550,50,50,2,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_upZ.bmp", 1
"AxisControl",518,610,50,50,2,0,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_downZ.bmp", 1

[Jog W Axis]
["AxisControl",583,550,50,50,2,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_upW.bmp", 1
["AxisControl",583,610,50,50,2,0,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_downW.bmp", 1

[Jog A Axis - UNBRACKET THIS TO USE RECOIL LATHE OPTION]
["AxisControl",580,698,50,50,3,0,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_leftA.bmp", 1
["AxisControl",681,699,50,50,3,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_rightA.bmp", 1

[5TH AXIS NOT USED]
["AxisControl",23,490,75,75,0,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_left.bmp", 1
["AxisControl",23,490,75,75,0,1,"","","",-1,-1,"btn_left.bmp", 1

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***USER BUTTONS - BRACKET OUT WHAT IS NOT NEEDED FOR THIS MACHINE***]

[***BUTTON LAYOUT***]
["UserBtn", Left, Top, Width, Height, ButtonNum, Unused, Label, Command, Unused, ScanOn, ScanOff, Bitmap, Group


[***INITIALIZE***]
"UserBtn",493,10,150,35,0,0,"INITIALIZE","/macros/macro_initialize.mac","",-1,-1,"Initialize.bmp", 2

[***PARK***]
"UserBtn",493,52,150,35,11,0,"Park","/MACROS/MACRO_PARK.MAC","",-1,-1,"btn_park.bmp", 2

[***ZERO XY***]
"UserBtn",493,94,150,35,1,0,"Zero XY","G92 X0 Y0","",-1,-1,"btn_zero_xy.bmp", 2

[***ZERO Z***]
"UserBtn",493,135,150,35,2,0,"Zero Z","G92 Z0","",-1,-1,"btn_zero_z.bmp", 2

[***TOUCH TOP***]
"UserBtn",493,178,150,35,3,0,"Touch Top","macros/macro_touchtop.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_touch_top.bmp", 2

[***GO 2 X0Y0***]
"UserBtn",493,220,150,35,10,0,"Go Home","/macros/macro_go_home.mac","",-1,-1,"Go X0Y0.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***UPGRADE BUTTONS***]

[***SPINDLE ON/OFF***]
["AuxOutex",505,367,120,30,1,0,"SPINDLE CONTROL","M3","M5",-1,-1,"Spindle on.bmp","Spindle off.bmp" 3

[***SPINDLE WARM UP***]
["UserBtn",383,367,120,30,3,0,"SPINDLE WARM UP","macros/WARMUP.MAC","",-1,-1,"Warm Up.bmp", 2

[***LASER ON/OFF***]
["AuxOutex",505,402,120,30,5,0,"LASER CONTROL","M11C5","M12C5",-1,-1,"Laser Off.bmp","Laser On.bmp" 5

[***LASER X0 Y0***]
["UserBtn",383,402,120,30,3,0,"LASER X0 Y0","macros/LASER_ZERO.MAC","",-1,-1,"Laser X0Y0.bmp", 2

[***POP UP PINS***]
["AuxOutex",297,247,75,30,18,0,"POP UP PINS","M70","M71",-1,-1,"Pins Down.bmp","Pins Up.bmp" 5

[***PROBE***]
["UserBtn",297,280,75,30,3,0,"PROBE","macros/????????","",-1,-1,"Probe.bmp", 2

[***VAC PUMP***]
["AuxOutex",297,368,75,30,17,0,"VAC PUMP","M62","M63",-1,-1,"Vac Off.bmp","Vac On.bmp" 5

[***VAC GATE***]
["AuxOutex",297,402,75,30,23,0,"VAC GATE","m65","m64",-1,-1,"Gate Off.bmp","Gate On.bmp"

[***VAC ZONES***]
["AuxOutex",383,367,120,30,21,0,"ZONE 1","m11C21","m12C21",-1,-1,"ZONE_ONE_RED.bmp","ZONE_ONE_GREEN.bmp" 5
["AuxOutex",383,402,120,30,22,0,"ZONE 2","m11C22","m12C22",-1,-1,"ZONE_TWO_RED.bmp","ZONE_TWO_GREEN.bmp" 5
["AuxOutex",297,402,75,30,5,0,"ZONE 3","m64","m65",-1,-1,"Gate Off.bmp","Gate On.bmp" 5
["AuxOutex",297,402,75,30,5,0,"ZONE 4","m64","m65",-1,-1,"Gate Off.bmp","Gate On.bmp" 5

[***DUST BOOT***]
["AuxOutex",297,435,75,30,9,0,"DUST Collect","M11C9","M12C9",-1,-1,"VAC on.bmp","VAC off.bmp" 5

[***RESET SERVOS [LARGE BUTTON]***]
["auxoutex",505,400,120,30,15,0,"SERVOS","M72","M73",-1,-1,"Servos E.bmp","Servos D.bmp"

[***RESET SERVOS [DOT BUTTON]***]
["auxoutex",319,281,20,20,15,0,"SERVOS","M72","M73",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp" 5


[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***RECOIL OPTION BUTTONS - BRACKET OFF IF NO RECOIL***]

[***Router Home***]
["UserBtn",580,603,175,35,3,0,"Router Home","macros/ROUTER_HOME.MAC","",-1,-1,"Router Home.bmp", 2

[***LATHE HOME***]
["UserBtn",580,643,175,35,3,0,"Lathe Home","macros/LATHE_HOME.MAC","",-1,-1,"Lathe Home.bmp", 2

[***ZERO A***]
["UserBtn",635,698,40,50,3,0,"ZERO A","G92 A0","",-1,-1,"Zero A.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***X3 OPTIONS - BRACKET OFF ATC BUTTONS BEFORE UNBRACKETING THE X3 BUTTONS***]

[***GET TOOL 1***]
["UserBtn",505,246,120,30,4,0,"Get Tool 1","/macros/macro_get_tool_1_nospindle.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_get_tool_1.bmp", 2

[***GET TOOL 2***]
["UserBtn",505,281,120,30,5,0,"Get Tool 2","/macros/macro_get_tool_2_nospindle.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_get_tool_2.bmp", 2

[***GET TOOL 3***]
["UserBtn",505,316,120,30,6,0,"Get Tool 3","/macros/macro_get_tool_3_nospindle.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_get_tool_3.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE 1***]
["UserBtn",383,246,120,30,7,0,"Measure T1","/macros/macro_measure_tool_1.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_measure_t1.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE 2***]
["UserBtn",383,281,120,30,8,0,"Measure T2","/macros/macro_measure_tool_2.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_measure_t2.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE 3***]
["UserBtn",383,316,120,30,9,0,"Measure T3","/macros/macro_measure_tool_3.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_measure_t3.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***DUAL HEAD OPTIONS - BRACKET OFF ATC & X3 BUTTONS BEFORE UNBRACKETING THE DUAL HEAD BUTTONS***]

[***GET TOOL 1***]
["UserBtn",318,346,150,35,4,0,"Get Tool 1","/macros/macro_get_tool_1_nospindle.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_get_tool_1.bmp", 2

[***GET TOOL 2***]
["UserBtn",490,346,150,35,5,0,"Get Tool 2","/macros/macro_get_tool_2_nospindle.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_get_tool_2.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE 1***]
["UserBtn",318,388,150,35,7,0,"Measure T1","/macros/macro_measure_tool_1.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_measure_t1.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE 2***]
[["UserBtn",490,388,150,35,8,0,"Measure T2","/macros/macro_measure_tool_2.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_measure_t2.bmp", 2

[***TURN ON 1***]
["UserBtn",318,430,150,35,7,0,"T1 ON","????????????????????????????","",-1,-1,"btn_Tool1_on.bmp", 2

[***TURN ON 2***]
["UserBtn",490,430,150,35,8,0,"T2 ON","???????????????????????????","",-1,-1,"btn_Tool2_on.bmp", 2

[***Z Auto Touch Top***]
["UserBtn",386,449,150,35,10,0,"Z Auto Top","/macros/macro_go_home.mac","",-1,-1,"Z Auto Top.bmp", 2

[***W Auto Touch Top***]
["UserBtn",560,449,150,35,10,0,"W Auto Top","/macros/macro_go_home.mac","",-1,-1,"W Auto Top.bmp", 2

[***LOCK BOTH HEADS***]
["auxoutex",319,474,20,20,15,0,"LOCK HEADS","M64","M65",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp", 1

[***TURN ON BOTH HEADS***]
["AuxOutEX",493,474,20,20,18,0,"TURN ON BOTH HEADS","M70","M71",-1,-1,"Selected Dot.bmp","Unselected Dot.bmp",5


[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***ATC OPTIONS - BRACKET OFF X3 BUTTONS BEFORE UNBRACKETING THE ATC BUTTONS***]

[***CALIBRATE SWITCH***]
["UserBtn",505,246,120,30,4,0,"CALIBRATE SWITCH","/macros/G37CAL.MAC","",-1,-1,"Calibrate Switch.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE ALL***]
["UserBtn",505,281,120,30,5,0,"MEASURE ALL","/macros/G37ALL.MAC","",-1,-1,"Measure All.bmp", 2

[***MEASURE TOOL***]
["UserBtn",505,316,120,30,6,0,"MEASURE TOOL","/macros/G37Z.MAC","",-1,-1,"Measure Tool.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***CLAMP HOLD DOWN CONTROLS***]

[Front Clamp ON/OFF]
["UserBtn",500,275,50,50,3,0,"Front Clamp Up","macros/????????","",-1,-1,"btn_up.bmp", 2
["UserBtn",555,275,50,50,3,0,"Front Clamp Down","macros/????????","",-1,-1,"btn_down.bmp", 2

[Back Clamp ON/OFF]
["UserBtn",500,370,50,50,3,0,"Back Clamp Up","macros/????????","",-1,-1,"btn_up.bmp", 2
["UserBtn",555,370,50,50,3,0,"Back Clamp Down","macros/????????","",-1,-1,"btn_down.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[***SAFETY MAT OPTION***]

[***RESET MAT [DOT BUTTON]***]
["auxoutex",493,281,20,20,15,0,"MAT","M72","M73",-1,-1,"Unselected Dot.bmp","Selected Dot.bmp" 5

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[***LINKS TO WEBSITES OR PROGRAMS***]

["ShellCmdBtn", 407,320,81,82,0,0,"Help","VisualCNCToolkit.exe","",-1,-1,"btn_tools.bmp"
["ShellCmdBtn", 979,70,51,50,0,0,"Calc","calc.exe","",-1,-1,"btn_calculator.bmp"
["ShellCmdBtn", 1047,68,51,50,0,0,"HELP","http://www.camheads.org","",-1,-1,"btn_help.bmp"
["ShellCmdBtn", 278,558,100,33,0,0,"Forum","http://www.camheads.org","",-1,-1,"camheads link.bmp"

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***TWO OPERATOR CONTROLLED MACHINE BUTTONS***]

["UserBtn",315,235,50,50,3,0,"One Player .5","macros/player one 05","",-1,-1,"player 1.bmp", 2
["UserBtn",375,235,50,50,3,0,"Two Player .5","macros/player two 05","",-1,-1,"player 2.bmp", 2
["UserBtn",315,320,50,50,3,0,"One Player .75","macros/player one 75","",-1,-1,"player 1.bmp", 2
["UserBtn",375,320,50,50,3,0,"Two Player .75","macros/player two 75","",-1,-1,"player 2.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***LASER CUTTER***]

[Laser Power]
["SlideControl",0,330,405,45,2,0,"","","",-1,-1,0
["SlideControl",0,380,405,45,0,0,"","","",-1,-1,0

["UserBtn",412,410,80,41,8,0,"Laser","/macros/laser.mac","",-1,-1,"btn_laser.bmp", 2

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************

[************************************************** ************************************************** ************
[***AUX CONTROLS***]
["AuxOut", Left, Top, Width, Height, Channel, Unused, Label, OnCommand, OffCommand, ScanOn, ScanOff, Bitmap, Group
["AuxOut",5,5,50,25,1,0,"Out 1","M11C1","M12C1",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",5,35,50,25,2,0,"Out 2","M11C2","M12C2",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",5,65,50,25,3,0,"Out 3","M11C3","M12C3",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",5,95,50,25,4,0,"Out 4","M11C4","M12C4",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",60,5,50,25,5,0,"Out 5","M11C5","M12C5",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",60,35,50,25,6,0,"Out 6","M11C6","M12C6",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",60,65,50,25,7,0,"Out 7","M11C7","M12C7",-1,-1,"", 3
["AuxOut",60,95,50,25,8,0,"Out 8","M11C8","M12C8",-1,-1,"", 3

["AuxIn", Type, Left, Top, Width, Height, Channel, Color, Label, Group
["AuxIn",0,5,7,145,18,1,2,"In 1",4
["AuxIn",0,5,27,145,18,2,2,"In 2",4
["AuxIn",0,5,47,145,18,3,2,"In 3",4
["AuxIn",0,5,67,145,18,4,2,"In 4",4
["AuxIn",0,5,87,145,18,5,2,"In 5",4
["AuxIn",0,5,107,145,18,6,2,"In 6",4


As You can see there is not much there just calling out what bitmap you want to display and what it will do when you press it.
CAMaster has there’s broken down in to sections and labeled as shown so it is easy to identify what you need to change and do it.

[Cut to the Bone]

Do post a section of your code so we can all help. That is the bottom line here. And all i think Mike was after.

[WinCNCGuy]

Wow!! That's one fine looking screen there Cut to the Bone. And you have a fine machine there too.

We are also very proud of being the controller of choice of Camaster. Thank you for reminding me.

And yes, Cut to the Bone, that is all I was asking. Thank you for clearing that up.

Mike

[Cut to the Bone]

Thanks Mike I like to work on the screens. I like them to have just what is needed.


It was a wize decision to use wincnc. We just switched over the stinger line to wincnc from Mach to add value and performance to our machines. So CAMaster is all wincnc. This also helps us on the support front as all connections are standard.

[cabnet636]

mike i came to cnc with limited knowledge of all things design, cad cam machining etc. wincnc was as voodoo to me as the rest of it yet i cannot blame this on the machine the salesman or anyone i think should predict my future or ultimate use of my machines. the machine company i purchased from provides support for your controller, the basics of operation and customizes each application to the end user, in addition they have done a pretty cool job with the graphics to boot. i had some of joey's earliest screens and functions and have a version that is probably three years old on my camaster x3, my first machine had the dos version from the late 90's. in 07 joey upgraded and i got use to the 08 CAMaster X3 version it does all i need and i will not upgrade it as "it is what it is" and does what it is supposed to ( i have no intention of drag racing with it at the track). last week i visited a friend who still has one of joey's yellow screens (boss rock) from a few years ago and told him we could get him an upgrade, he asked why? and i understand him. it does not need it, it is stable and does exactly what he needs it to do. i have had several machines and mach, mach will also do what one needs it to do and has a forum to help those who have it and wish to change it. i have wincnc, i prefer it, it is what i learned and got comfortable with, as i have grown in this cnc thing i have learned all i have needed from your manual and the fellows at camaster to achieve which at this point is some cnc work that has exceeded my wildest expectations, the interface is well supported by the machine companys and camaster certainly rates at or near the top of that. i understand more now than when i started but to think i expected you (wincnc) to do this for me would have only slowed me down. i have limited knowledge of many types of controllers yet this one works well, is stable as it could be, i can trust it on windows and it has never missed a beat!! (other than my learning curve) thanks for a good product.

[Butterknife]

Thanks Jim,

I really appreciate your work. I am very familiar with your work, it is amazing. You could give lessons to a lot of people with many more years in CNC than you have!!

If I ever get half as good as you, I'll consider myself an ARTIST.

[cabnet636]

be careful with that word "artist" they seem to go hungry, most all i do is through the already available technology like wincnc, aspire camaster etc.!