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  1. #1
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    New Project!

    Ok guys. sorry no pictures yet but I promise they are on their way. I just finished my electronics and decided to do some testing with my steppers. At first it seemed they worked great, however, I soon realized that wasn't the case. About 20% of the time they stop spinning and stall out. They still sound like they are running but they don't spin. It seems like (but I am not sure on this) it occurs more when they get hot. Could this be that case? Any ideas? I have the hobbycnc EZ board and three nema 23's.
    Thanks all, Beau

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    What is your power supply voltage and what are your motor specs (ie voltage, current, photos etc)?

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    My motors are size 23 steppers. They they run at 3.6 volts and draw 2.3 amps. Here is a link to them.
    1.8DEG. 3.6V SIZE 23 STEPMOTOR-MPJA, Inc.
    My power supply is a 24 volts 14.5 amps and is regulated.

    Here are a few pics of my controller box(almost finished.)
    Sorry for the bad quality. It was just my phone. I will try to use my camera for the next pics.
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    Happy cncing, Beau

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    I just found a video on youtube in which the guy has the same problem.
    [nomedia="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vg1p99FGUXA"]YouTube - CNC stepper motors stalling[/nomedia]
    Best regards, Beau

  5. #5
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    Play with the motor tuning, you may have the steps per wrong or the speed is set too high. I remember having this problem when I was setting my first machine up. I have the hobby cnc 4axis board.
    http://www.beamsshop.com

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    Its weird thought because it will even do it at slow speeds like 20 ipm. I can't seem to figure out what causes this.

  7. #7
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    Resonance. It actually can be worse when the motors are not attached to the machine.

    See this thread.

    http://www.cnczone.com/forums/steppe...tml#post256639
    Gerry

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  8. #8
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    I have used a similar PSU voltage to your 24v and have similar unipolar IC drivers, and similar unipolar steppers (mine are 3v 2A) and mine gets excellent low-med and high speed performance although I never have a need to run it over 12 revs per second.

    Check you have the right current adjustment, you can even run a little over the rated current with unipolar like using 2.5A instead of 2.3A.

    After that it might be an issue with the wrong acceleration ramps or sometimes a PC issue where an interrupt or something is causing pauses in your step signal.

    And like Ger21 said you can't judge it when the motors are not attached. I have a foam pad that I sit the motors on when testing them with no load, and sit them sideways which helps a little with the resonance.

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