Available as a pre-order on the Tormach website. ATCs now Available for Pre-orders « Milling Around
Available as a pre-order on the Tormach website. ATCs now Available for Pre-orders « Milling Around
wow... $4200 is a little more than i'm willing to spend on this.
i'm wondering how many people are going to buy one??
I will be saving up for one. I can't wait.
I wish they would have made this for the BT30 spindle with true spindle orientation. It would not be that hard. Use the old shot pin method since Mach is not able to handle feedback.
Funny the economy of machining. There is definitely a hobby/professional division. I just bought a straight VDI live tool unit for a lathe that cost more than two entire Tormach machines.
I just finished with the vfd upgrade and was going to upgrade to the power draw bar this year, but it currently shows up back ordered on Tormach's site.
I will probably upgrade to the tool changer within a year or so. Not in the budget this year. Its definitely more of a want than a need for what I do. But as someone else said, its just so cool.
Think those prices are bad, look up how much Haas stuff cost.... (6k for just a probe) Don't forget you'll also need to purchase a PDB, so it's like $5400 after all said and done. However to be able to walk away from the machine to do other things is worth every penny, not to mention no more nasty coolant that drips, splashes on you from every tool change.
Update:
Tormach has a couple of "Installing the ATC" videos on their website.
Installing the Tormach ATC « Milling Around
Very cool.
I would like to see some videos of the ATC in motion.
Congrats to Tormach for coming out with the ATC option.
While a little pricey in some peoples eyes, as mentioned, to the more than hobbyist machinist, this could be a god send.
When thinking about the price, you have a Tormach already without a ATC. Would you buy another machine to get a ATC, or spend the $4200 to get the setup on your current machine you already have and know.
Todd
Seems like a pretty reasonable price for what it is, if it performs reliably as the rest of their hardware seems to.
There are very limited choices if you want a mill with an ATC. Basically, it's this, a Haas TM-1 or mini-mill which is pushing 30K, or a used VMC. You can buy two 1100's for the price of one Haas, and the used iron is a crapshoot unless you know what you're doing. And if something breaks, the Tormach is likely to be the cheapest to fix, possibly by a large margin.
I suspect there are a lot of Tormach owners who will buy this without a second thought to the price. $4k is real money but there are a lot of wealthy guys out there with all kinds of toys in the garage. There are a lot of hobbies where $4k is chump change... those guys will buy this just for the "cool!" factor. And I suspect there's plenty of them to go around.
The other side will be serious operators who frequently make small runs but don't have the situation to justify a VMC, whether it's space, cost, whatever. For them, this is a big productivity add, since you can walk away from the mill for as long as it takes to make a part, or more if you can fixture multiple parts on the table. For a guy who mostly makes one-offs, the value is much lower.
Third thing, this creates "option value" to choose Tormach over Syil, Sieg, Mikini, and all the other mini-mill guys out there. Even if you don't buy the ATC right away, knowing it's an option to add on later makes you more likely to choose the Tormach in the first place.
Congratulations Tormach :cheers:
I was on the beta program and I cant tell you how much I love running the ATC. Its been so nice to start a program and just go about doing other work in the shop until a part needs to be flipped or changed.
David