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  1. #421
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    Yea I agree that cut 3d is lacking in features I want. I may have to try Desk proto some time.

    Great work on your part! I love seeing stuff like that! Too bad you painted it black it looked cool the way it was lol

  2. #422
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    Quote Originally Posted by vtx1029 View Post
    Yea I agree that cut 3d is lacking in features I want. I may have to try Desk proto some time.

    Great work on your part! I love seeing stuff like that! Too bad you painted it black it looked cool the way it was lol
    DeskProto has a lot of features but the learning curve is steeper than with 3dCut.

    I had planned to leave the plywood visible but got concerned that the plies split apart with the engine heat cycling. Therefore I put a layer of glassfiber/epoxy on the outer surface and after that it did not look as pretty anymore. Then I spackled and painted it black. But the plywood is still visible from the inside ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Devastator View Post
    That's pretty cool. I wonder how the longevity will be on that? And the obvious question, can you tell if it runs better? I like it.
    As for longevity see the last post. I hope the glass fiber will take care of it.

    I don't think it will make much of a difference how the car runs. The velocity stacks are moderately extended and a bit more flared than before but the resulting differences are not an exact science and lots of opinions around. If any it would only be measurable at full throttle and since I don't go to the track anymore with this car I probably will not notice.
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  4. #424
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    I have not posted much lately, mainly because I consider the machine complete. Little mods here and there but mainly I just use the machine for my funky projects.

    I did one the last couple of days that came out quite nice. I wanted to make a rather large Lazy Susan (21.5" diameter) with the bearing races cut directly into the wood. To prevent the wood from warping and cupping I designed a jigsaw puzzle or quilt pattern that allows a circumferential grain direction. Besides being functional, IMHO it also looks pretty. Then I cut the ball channels into the plate with a ball end/plunge bit (not a ballnose bit), separated the inside from the outside and filled the channel with red glass marbles. My wife already noticed it may have some practical issues with food spills into the bearing but it sure looks good

    BTW, it is poplar and cherry. I like how the grain lights up in the sun when turning in different orientation.





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  5. #425
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    that is a neet lazy susan jerry!

  6. #426
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    very pretty......

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    oops, wrong thread.

  8. #428
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    O.K., it is not a Paradise Box but it is a box nonetheless . I put the Big Bamboo machine to good use for our remodeled bathroom. And, no question it is made of Bamboo







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  9. #429
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    Wow Jerry, that looks nice.
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  10. #430
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    I've been puzzling over your drawer slides. Did you use marbles, and are those loading slots/marble retainers/stops at the rear of the drawers? 'Cause, damn. that's slick!

    Luke
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trotline View Post
    I've been puzzling over your drawer slides. Did you use marbles, and are those loading slots/marble retainers/stops at the rear of the drawers? 'Cause, damn. that's slick!

    Luke
    Not marbles (they are not very accurate) but 1/2" bearing balls. Yes the slots at the rear are for loading and the little block keeps the balls from falling out (can be removed to take the drawers out).

    It works reasonably well. But this is my first attempt and it surely can be improved. Right now the balls are loose in the channel and when some aggregate on the wrong end there is a bit of unwanted friction. The curved channel was supposed to make the drawers self closing but that does not work reliably due that. For practical daily use it is good enough and better than solid slider bars.
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    I have been experimenting with vacuum clamps and built at one point a roots blower pump that was way too powerful for my small part holding purposes and too noisy for the residential neighborhood.

    Lately I used a smaller dual rocking piston 3/4 hp pump (like the Gast pumps) with good success. Not only very quiet but also great holding power with two or more 4x4" pods. However, getting the initial grab before the seals are compressed seems to be a well known issue with such small pumps.

    Today I installed a combined manifold/storage tank that I made from a 10' section of black 4" ABS drainage pipe. Cut into six 20" sections it is compact and tucks in neatly under the CNC table. One mistake was to machine the end caps from MDF. Even after coating with 2 thick layers of acrylic paint it still leaked around the joints. It took a generous smear with silicone sealant to get it to hold tight. It would be much better to make the caps out of ABS or PVC, too.

    I wanted to make the distance between the storage and the pods as short as possible and with good sized 1/2" fittings/tube to allow for a serious "suck" event when the ball valve (natural gas valve) is turned on. The filters in the lines to the pods are 3/8" universal fuel filters from Autozone. They are transparent and will show when I need to blow them out (cheap, too).

    In Action:


    Interesting effect: I managed to cut into the area of the vacuum pods by mistake but I did not lose vacuum completely. The fine chips clogged the gap between the work piece and the pod. While a bit reduced, the vacuum held up to the end of the cut:
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    Vacuum is a great thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ger21 View Post
    Vacuum is a great thing.
    Yes! I wasted 2 years with my CNC and messing with hold-down clamps. The vacuum won't work for all jobs but for me it is probably 80% and on such jobs it is much more precise and reliable. Dead flat and like bolted to the table.
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    I expanded the vacuum setup for my range extender table (I posted about that one a while ago). That table is just a flat sheet (actually a Masonite slab door) and vacuum is the only reasonable way of holding down a part. With the pods cut from 3/4" plywood and sealed with some wood glue the 4 pods hold 24" vacuum with my little pump. I also experimented with gasketing tape and found the 3/8 wide and 3/16 thick black Frost King weather strip works best for me. Seals just as well and much easier to use than the expensive gasket tape that needs a groove to be cut.

    Extension table with separate vacuum lines.


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    That is what I needed the vacuum pods for. Finally I am finishing my bathroom remodel project.



    Vanity mirror with back light (actually the light in the pic is just the flash reflection, not the LED behind it):

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  17. #437
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    Hi Jerry ,
    your mashine is very impressive and i have learned a lot reading the thread. One quick question ,what is the diameter of the rails you are using and did you noticed any play from the linear bearings? I´m planning on using the same type for a machine i´m designing ,mainly because of the cost.

    Thanks.

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    Well, the linear bearings are probably the weakest link in this machine. I used regular 20mm supported rails that I bought from Glacern.com, I spaced them generously and used a dual screw x-drive. Not to say that these are bad bearings and they are good enough for most of the stuff I am doing. But given the open shell of the bearing sleeve they have some measurable flex. Accuracy is surely better than what you can achieve with CRS rails and skate bearings but I wish I had spent the extra bucks for THK style bearings. My heavy bamboo machine is super rigid and the Kuroda ball screws are the dog's bollocks. But the bearings limit the rigidity quite a bit.

    If you are planning to do the usual light mid-size woodworking jobs you should be fine with the round supported rails (or even unsupported for a small machine). But if you need very high accuracy or high loads (or if money does not matter) you should look for better linear bearings.
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    Thanks for the reply. One more question, does the housing of your linear bearing permit adjustement? I´m asking because i saw on ebay some linear bearings like yours which have a lateral screw for adjusting the play. Something similar to this photo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dedeer View Post
    ... does the housing of your linear bearing permit adjustement...
    The first set that I bought from Glacern did have the adjustment screws. The second set under same part number and otherwise identical did not.

    I think the little adjustment screws are kind of useless. They put a point load on the bearing shell that holds the balls and if a little overtightened the bearing will bind. They would need some threadlocker anyway of they will work loose easily.

    The bearing in your picture looks a little different and the screw may actually do something.
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