[angelw]

Donor machine is same make/control just a couple years difference. I will backup all my parameters and go thru the donors and compare.

I've been fighting with this one for two weeks and would love to see the T/C work finally

Hi laka,
Given that parameter 40.5 was set to 1 in your machine's control, its probable that the parameters are intact. I'm with Steve, and wouldn't necessarily do anything drastic with the parameters. My first step would be to examine the tool change Macro and try that first.

Like Steve, I'm interested in the resolve.

Regards,

Bill

[dpuch]

Try using M6 T# in that order and on the same line and see if that gets rid of the "M06 without T" error We had a Saber 400H and used calls that way but not now, so it may have needed it that way. I do NOT remember what control it had though.

Try it with 40.5=0 and 240=6 Also with both =0

[Mr Bonavita]

do you know what parameter is the one you change to access parameters 9000 +?

they are lock up.

[Mr Bonavita]

I'm looking for a parameter list for a FANUC OM-C control, including 900
and its different options for all of them.
I'm trying to repair a retrofitted machine...some body erased all parameters.

[stevo1]

do you know what parameter is the one you change to access parameters 9000 +?

they are lock up.

10.4 is the parameter. Make sure you have a bacup of the control before going and messing with these programs.

I'm looking for a parameter list for a FANUC OM-C control, including 900
and its different options for all of them.
I'm trying to repair a retrofitted machine...some body erased all parameters.

The 900 parameters are proprietary to Fanuc and it is frowned upon to post these publicly. Why do you need a “full” list of these?

Stevo

[Mr Bonavita]

apparently some one play with the parameters in the machine, after that they got a alarm message soon after that they wiped out all the memory and reloaded the parameters,
but My guess is that they forgot about the 900 parameters.

[stevo1]

If you have a backup of the parameters then use the attached procedure for reinstalling all the data. The one you need to do first is at the bottom of the attachment.

Stevo

[txcncman]

apparently some one play with the parameters in the machine, after that they got a alarm message soon after that they wiped out all the memory and reloaded the parameters,
but My guess is that they forgot about the 900 parameters.

And this is why the first answer when a machine becomes disfunctional NOT to change parameters until all other avenues have been exhausted.

But then again, what do I care. It is your frustration and money. Go ahead. Change parameters. I need more laughter in my life.

[laka]

For the guys that were helping me with getting the toolchanger working on this machine, I did finally get it working. I ended up sourcing a proper toolchange macro from someone with the same machine as me, and everything is working perfectly now! Thanks for all the help along the way.

Below is a copy of the macro, looks pretty complicated to me - but I'm not too familiar with macro programming.

%
:9000(AUTO TOOL CHANGE MACRO 260390)
G65H01P#1132Q0
T#149
G17G40G80G90
G65H1P#148Q-129092(MET DN POS)
G65H81P80Q#1013R0
N80G65H81P110Q#4006R21
G65H4P#148Q#148R100
G65H5P#148Q#148R254
N110G65H81P130Q#1008R1
M87
N130G65H81P520Q#1003R1
G65H81P520Q#1007R1
G65H81P510Q#4120R0
G65H81P300Q#1004R1
N190G65H81P410Q#1005R1
M19
G49G53Z#148
G65H1P#1132Q2
N230G65H81P230Q#1006R0
N240G65H81P240Q#1012R0
G49G53Z0
G65H1P#1132Q1
G65H81P300Q#1010R1
N280G65H81P280Q#1009R0
G65H80P520
N300G65H83P460Q#4120R21
M19
G49G53Z0
G65H1P#1132Q1
N340G65H81P340Q#1006R0
N350G65H81P350Q#1011R0
N360G65H81P360Q#1012R0
G49G53Z#148
G65H1P#1132Q2
N390G65H81P390Q#1009R0
G65H80P520
N410G49G53Z0
G65H1P#1132Q1
M00
G65H81P520Q#4120R0
G65H80P300
N460G49G53Z0
G65H1P#1132Q1
M00
N490G65H81P490Q#1009R0
G65H80P520
N510G65H81P190Q#1004R0
N520M06
M99
%

Thanks again!

[beege]

Looks like Macro A... If you want to decipher this, I posted a Macro A thing a while back, found here

[gbowne1]

Looks like a bunch of G49's and G65's to me.

[stevo1]

For the guys that were helping me with getting the toolchanger working on this machine, I did finally get it working. I ended up sourcing a proper toolchange macro from someone with the same machine as me, and everything is working perfectly now! Thanks for all the help along the way.

I am sure glad that you got this fixed after exhausting “all other options”. Well done……I presume that you got this macro from another member that was willing to help you knowing the situation that you are in.

And this is why the first answer when a machine becomes disfunctional NOT to change parameters until all other avenues have been exhausted.
But then again, what do I care. It is your frustration and money. Go ahead. Change parameters. I need more laughter in my life.

And when a machine is dysfunctional because of parameters being lost as the poster has stated……………..”His parameters have been erased”. So I am very curious on how he is supposed to exhaust all other options of getting his machine fixed “without” changing parameters???? Now remember he can’t spend money.

I am sure that Bonavita is getting any laughter out of the MT being down..........but I am a realist and i guess there is always someone out there that likes to kick a man when he is down.

Stevo

[gbowne1]

I am sure that Bonavita is getting any laughter out of the MT being down..........but I am a realist and i guess there is always someone out there that likes to kick a man when he is down.

Plenty of those people around Stevo. I work with a bunch myself.

[angelw]

And when a machine is dysfunctional because of parameters being lost as the poster has stated……………..”His parameters have been erased”. So I am very curious on how he is supposed to exhaust all other options of getting his machine fixed “without” changing parameters???? Now remember he can’t spend money.

I am sure that Bonavita is getting any laughter out of the MT being down..........but I am a realist and i guess there is always someone out there that likes to kick a man when he is down.

Stevo

Well said Steve. When I read txcncman's post, I though it rather mean spirited to get laughs out of the misfortune of others; but it takes all kinds.

The overwhelming message, and its one thats been stated by you and other contributors to this forum, is to backup parameters and programs whether there is an intention to alter them or not. This is fundamental to good management.

I suspect that the person referred to by Mr Bonavita who originally lost the parameters, did so without seeking advice. Mr Bonavita should get a tick for asking for advice rather than trying to muddle on and perhaps make the situation worse.

With regards txcncman wanting more laughter in his life, I suspect there is probably plenty, but more at him rather than with him.

Regards,


Bill

[fordav11]

Looks like Macro A... If you want to decipher this, I posted a Macro A thing a while back, found here

I decided to try the #500 = 1 EOB START and also the Macro A G65 equivalent on my machine at work today.
The Macro B code came up with alarm 'Illegal' something. Might have been 'Illegal Argument' or 'Illegal Address'
The Macro A code came up with alarm 'Improper G-Code'

I guess that means I have no macro at all?

It's a 18 or 21 series (Mori MSG500 so not sure exactly which) and has 9100-9178 numbers for system configuration settings (i.e. option parameters) but I don't know which one is supposed to be the macro option or what other options it has.

[angelw]

I decided to try the #500 = 1 EOB START and also the Macro A G65 equivalent on my machine at work today.
The Macro B code came up with alarm 'Illegal' something. Might have been 'Illegal Argument' or 'Illegal Address'
The Macro A code came up with alarm 'Improper G-Code'

I guess that means I have no macro at all?

It's a 18 or 21 series (Mori MSG500 so not sure exactly which) and has 9100-9178 numbers for system configuration settings (i.e. option parameters) but I don't know which one is supposed to be the macro option or what other options it has.

Its quite unsual for Series 18 or 21 not to have the User Macro option. But the test that you did should result in #500 being assigned the value "1", and with not error. Are you able to find the Macro Registerer pages accessible via the Offset key?

Regards,

Bill

[fordav11]

there is no macro page. no macro variables or anything macro related on any of the menus/screens.

[bist]

Hi Laka,
The same thing happened with our Sabre 750, all parameters and macros have been lost. We bought it a year ago and since then we have been struggling to make it fully functional. The only thing that is left is automatic tool change.
The first alarm that we were getting was 078 P/S. After setting up parameters and uploading some simple macro ( O9020 for M06 call ) we get 059 P/S alarm. When I found your post about macro A in O9000 I thought that was it, but 059 alarm remains.
I am suspecting that some other parameters are not correct, or some other macros missing. I was wondering if you by any chance have machine parameters at hand, if you could forward them to us, we'll appreciate it?
Also, did you left some macro for M6 call, and what is exactly vmc doing when you call T#M6 in MDI?

Thanks in advance

[angelw]

Hi Laka,
The same thing happened with our Sabre 750, all parameters and macros have been lost. We bought it a year ago and since then we have been struggling to make it fully functional. The only thing that is left is automatic tool change.
The first alarm that we were getting was 078 P/S. After setting up parameters and uploading some simple macro ( O9020 for M06 call ) we get 059 P/S alarm. When I found your post about macro A in O9000 I thought that was it, but 059 alarm remains.
I am suspecting that some other parameters are not correct, or some other macros missing. I was wondering if you by any chance have machine parameters at hand, if you could forward them to us, we'll appreciate it?
Also, did you left some macro for M6 call, and what is exactly vmc doing when you call T#M6 in MDI?

Thanks in advance

To use an "M" or "T" code to call a Macro, or Sub Program, a number corresponding to the "M" code has to be registered in a parameter, or a parameter bit needs to be set if the "T" address is to be used. You need to ensure that both aren't set at the same time. Are you sure that the parameters are set correctly for the program number of the Tool Change Program being used?

What control model do you have? If its an 0M as the Thread suggests, and if the control only has User Macro "A", then program number O9020 won't be available. If the program call parameters are set correctly, you will be able to set a parameter, the number of which is model specific, to have the control execute each Macro Block in Single Block mode. Step through the Tool Change sequence until either of the alarms you're experiencing is raised. Once you've found where the alarm occurs, post the program here for the Forum to be able to offer further suggestions. However, its my bet that you have a mismatch of program number call parameter and the program number of the Tool Change Program.

You need to determine if the control is equipped with User Macro "B", and supply the Forum with the model of the control. You can determine if the control has User Macro "B" by viewing the start number of the Macro Variables in the Macro Variable pages. If they start at "1" then your control has Macro "B". If they start at "100" then Macro "A" is version the control is equipped with.

Regards,

Bill

[bist]

Hi Bill, thanks for quick reply
It's 0M series, I'll check macro variable page on Monday to see what type it is
Do you mean if it's Macro "A" then machine wouldn't even call the program O9020 with 230 parameter set to 6?
Do you know by any chance what is the parameter for Single Block mode execution?

Thanks again!