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  1. #1
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    transformer from UPS?

    Hi,
    can I use a transformer from a UPS? (Uninterruptible Power Supply)
    I acquired an APC 520ES UPS, and looking
    inside it I found a huge transformer, and I was wondering
    if I could use it as a power supply, if so, what current
    capability can I expect from it? I'm guessing it's
    a kind of step-up transformer, but does it work the other
    way?

    thanx.
    mhel
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  2. #2
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    I used one from an UPS, but I rewired it (actually a shop did it )so I can have multiple secondaries:




    Pablo

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    I got brave enough and tried it,
    with the transformer that I have
    I'm getting 16V AC not using the center tap
    so, basically I have two 8V which would drop
    when I use bridge rectifier. I might try rewinding,
    but need to do a lot more reading from the other thread.
    Actually I just wanted to build a bench PSU so I guess 12VDC
    should be enough for now, I'm just curious how much current this
    thing could handle.
    mhel
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  4. #4
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    with bench supplies you very seldom need much more that 1 or 2 amps.
    maybe you should consider using a variac with its o/p into a bridge/ cap filter setup for larger current needs.
    you can feed the variac into transformers as well.
    this way one can bring the ac/dc up slowly in experimental circuits, before the fireworks.
    been there , done that , lol

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    I forgot about this.
    I'm reviving the thread for yet another question.

    BTW I built a simple PSU using LM317 and a walwart trnsformer,
    found a circuit online.

    My new quest.
    I decided to use the txformer from UPS to power
    my steppers( currently have one), but I'm
    not quite sure how much current it could supply.
    How do I determine the current.
    this txformer used to have two 6Ah batteries connected
    to it( though not directly).

    Also can bridge rectifiers be paralleled, ( I'm thinking I could,
    since diodes could be paralleled right?) I just happen to have
    a bunch I took from old AT PSUs, and I'm cheap I'm trying
    (to save)let me rephrase, not to spend as much
    If it could be paralleled, I still need to know the current from the txformer.
    The bridges I have can handle 4A, (it says so in the datasheet I got).

    tia.

    BTW why(how come)does some transformer hum? 'cause this one hum
    noticeably.
    mhel
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  6. #6
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    If you have 16vac without the centre tap you should get 16vdc using a bridge rectifier. Connect your 2 ac lines from the transformer to the ac lines on the bridge and there should be a + - on the bridge for your dc out. The rectifiers I have seen are all marked.
    Hope this helps.
    John

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    vulcom1:
    thanks, but I'm more concern 'bout current capability
    of the transformer, and the possibility of using
    two bridge rectifier parallel.( and the humming )
    but I guess the hum is no big deal, I hear the
    the transformer on the lamp post accross the street when
    I walk by, nobody seems to care.
    mhel
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    You can get an idea of the VA from the physical size of the core. Transformer hum is often caused by either loose laminations or also increases when under load.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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    Diodes cannot be hooked in parallel. They will not split the load equally.

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    Diodes cannot be hooked in parallel. They will not split the load equally.
    Dang, I was hoping I could make use of those bridges if
    the txformer is more than 4A


    Al_The_Man: I just thought that I could derive the value
    from available info i.e. 6Ah batteries used, and the unit's
    output is [email protected] when it's still a UPS as you
    can see in the pic it's been stripped off.

    .thanks.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails txformerUPS.jpg  
    mhel
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    There's no definitive rule, but I would guess the size to be around 200~250va tops.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

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    I'll try to test it like this, say, I use the bridge that is rated 4A,
    would the bridge blow up if the txformer can supply more than 4A,
    or do I have to put load first then I'll know if it will blowup?
    That way I could assume that I have more than 4A txformer,
    then figure up another test
    mhel
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    The current is dependant on the load, no load - no current.
    If you exceed the va rating of the transformer it will overheat and the voltage may start to collapse.
    Al.
    CNC, Mechatronics Integration and Custom Machine Design

    “Logic will get you from A to B. Imagination will take you everywhere.”
    Albert E.

  14. #14
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    Thanks, I should have known that, still a lot to learn.
    mhel
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