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  1. #1
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    Whens a circle not a circle

    hi out there.
    Running into an odd problem outside my scope of understanding.
    I have been trying to cut a series of holes, basically my version of the penny damper.
    I redrew the damper to work with Canadian pennies so a slight change.
    But I find the cut isn't round. Its nearly round sort of like my waistline.
    It seems to be oblongish with the y axis being the short direction, yet i confirmed the calibration appears to be pretty accurate on the steps per inch.
    I have run it fast and slow, no change.

    So I am lost. Any thoughts would be appreciated.
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  2. #2
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    You may be losing steps, or you may have backlash on one of the axes.
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  3. #3
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    hi there.
    Thanks for your response.
    I have installed new Anti Backlash lead nuts.
    I also drew up a 3 inch by 3 inch square and cut it repeatedly with my machine each time checking the dimensions on the x and y.
    I had to make a slight Y adjustment and found the y was not square and had to adjust that.
    I am now cutting what appears to be a good square with right angle corners. I figured, lets start with something simple and make sure everything is adjusted right.
    I will re-cut my damper in the next day or so and check the results.
    I have a couple questions before I do.
    First my board provides a max output of 3 amps.
    It has 4 settings, 25%, 50%, 75% and 100%, I currently have it set at 75% or 2.25 amps.
    The motors are rated at 2.8 amps, so I am wondering if I should run at 100%. However when I run at 100% I notice the motors are very warm. I don't want to leave my hand on them. So question is, should it be 100%.

    Next question drilling a hole or using inside profile. Which is better and more accurate for say a hole less then 1 inch.

    Last question, are there any settings that affect how a circle is cut. I see Constant velocity vs Exact Stop and Arc Center Mode can be either incremental vs Absolute.

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  4. #4
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    Any flex at all that your machine may have will show up when cutting circles, especially smaller ones. Try cutting them much slower, and see if the results improve.
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  5. #5
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    Will give it a try.
    Have set the feeds and speeds down in the G code.
    In the mean time any thoughts on the amperage question.

  6. #6
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    Well I can see a couple problems.
    My router is actually rocking slightly in the mount. I am shocked. I thought it was solid. So will address that, but first I need to fix the lead nut on the z axis. I just broke the mount. It's designed that way so I am not upset.

  7. #7
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    Well
    I remounted the router with a slight change to the lower mount. I didn't see that there was a gap on one side that caused the router to shift to one side. I corrected it last night and ran one fast test before the boss called dinner. The one circle was bordering on perfect. I need to try again tomorrow and test it a few more times and see how it goes.

  8. #8
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    Ok
    So Now I have a question to the forum participants.
    I cut my nickel damper last night. Nearly spot on, nearly.
    Some irregularity stil exists. I observed that there is a slight rocking of the gantry as the gantry moves. Not a lot, but its there.
    I don't know the cause as yet. Not sure if its missed steps causing a bouncing sort of affect or what.
    So here is my question. Is it possible to add a counterbalance to the bottom of the gantry to reduce the rocking affect.
    I know I need to look at the root of the problem, but I have noticed that these slide bearings have some play in them that allows for this rocking affect.
    Ergo the question. Would a counterbalance make sense since gantry's are top heavy.

    Cheers

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