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View Poll Results: Do you 1/2, 1/4, 1/8 step etc or had issues slow speed fine stepping missing steps

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  • Full Step

    5 11.11%
  • 1/2 Step

    11 24.44%
  • 1/4 Step

    8 17.78%
  • 1/8 Step

    9 20.00%
  • Or Finer

    12 26.67%
  • Had Issues

    3 6.67%
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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
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    27

    What Steps do you take? 1/2, 1/4,1/8 etc

    After having trouble with slow speed steeping problems on my DIY CNC for some months when stepping any more than 1/2 steps I'm interested to know
    what others are stepping at and if they also had issues with fine stepping at slow speed.

    DO YOU

    Full Step

    1/2 Step

    1/4 Step

    1/8 Step

    Or More

    Had Issues

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Posts
    251

    Re: What Steps do you take? 1/2, 1/4,1/8 etc

    I use full step only when i have no other choice or when i have the motors working over the resonant speed, otherwise i use 1/2 or 1/4 for almost anything.
    Tom

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
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    Re: What Steps do you take? 1/2, 1/4,1/8 etc

    Thanks to those who have posted.
    More info re why the Poll
    A bit more of an explanation is now evident after more research. A friend had loaned me a couple of old G201's to try on my machine to see if I could
    resolve the issue of loosing steps at slow speed when attempting to step any finer than 1/2 steps, this is the oposite to what is meant to happen
    as most will know.
    While looking up the setup info for the G201 some of the info talked about the trim pot that allowed you to adjust the controller to set a null point to
    help overcome the exact problem I have of low speed course stepping and lost steps.
    Now I never fitted the 201's after reading this and further testing at 1/2 stepping was proving to be quite satisfactory.
    My setup is
    3 x M542H drivers.
    Nema 23 290 oz inch Wantai Hybrid steppers
    48 Volt switching power supply
    5 axis BOB
    LAN Smoothstepper
    Mach3 on a Win 7 laptop.
    If you want to see the machine it's here on my build blog, DIY CNC Router | Ken Nicholas Nico13 Photography Astro Photo & DIY CNC

    See this sample video of some V carving at 36 ipm and I had also done it at 43 ipm with no issues,
    it could have gone faster but no need for my purposes.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7H4yMFb4n88

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
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    Re: What Steps do you take? 1/2, 1/4,1/8 etc

    Have you tried dampers?
    Gerry

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  5. #5
    Join Date
    Jun 2014
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    Re: What Steps do you take? 1/2, 1/4,1/8 etc

    Hi Gerry,
    Yes I did try a damper, I made a tunable damper with a rubber mounted damper weight that could be relaxed of stiffened up via a tension adjustment.
    Unfortunately all it did was make it worse.
    Everything I've read on this says it should not be happening and that by stepping 1/4 or 1/8th steps or finer should reduce it but all it does is make it worse.
    All I can put it down to is a mismatched motor driver combination if that's possible, an inductance problem that doesn't suit the driver I have.
    I'm considering a fourth Axis for my machine and I may well try a different driver and motor that I can exchange with what I already have but at the moment
    It seems to be working ok with half steps so I'll stick with that for the time being.

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