[MaxH]

Hi,

I bought the Servostar about a year ago but hadn't found any time to tinker arround with it yet.
Now im trying to fire it up without a servo for setup purpose but simply can't get it to "work"
Means: Nothing lights up? Is this normal? I haven't connected it to the pc yet but the drive shows no sign of life.

I supplied 24V on the C3 connector (7/8)
230V and Neutral on L1 and L2 (single phase user)
All the DIP switches are set to 0

Am I missing something here?

Greetings from Vienna,
Max

[Jade York]

If you do indeed have 230 volts going in and it is selected for 230 volt input, the power supply side of the drive may be bad.

[mike_Kilroy]

Greetings to Vienna Max.

Yep, you are missing something like real important; logic power. Without it, no lite, no led, nothing. Dead drive.

Sounds like you could benefit from an instruction manual to see what you REALLY need to hook up. You can get it from our website here:

CD Series Servo Drives | Kollmorgen | Serviced Digital AC Servo Drives

We have a .de website too if you prefer.

You need 24vdc on that little black 2 pin screw connector on TOP of the drive; C3 pin 7/8 is simply the drive enable input.... You do NOT need L1/L2 input to lite her up and talk to her.

BTW, do you really have SERCOS interface to plug this puppy into?

[MaxH]

Hi,

its been a while but now I had the time to tinker arround.
I got the Motion Link software to run and give me the resolver Feedback
The Problem is, the only Motor available at the time is a DBL3H00130 which ofc isnt in the list.
It seems to be in the area of a 6SM37M or something likewise.

I can't click the enable button in the bottom left corner. All enables are "1" so the last one would be software enable.
There are no error codes either.

Anybody got an idea?

Greetings,
Max

PS: No Sercos, im running "her" via rs232 .. maybe "her" is also the better gender in this case (:

[mike_Kilroy]

Hi,

its been a while but now I had the time to tinker arround.
I got the Motion Link software to run and give me the resolver Feedback
The Problem is, the only Motor available at the time is a DBL3H00130 which ofc isnt in the list.
It seems to be in the area of a 6SM37M or something likewise.

I can't click the enable button in the bottom left corner. All enables are "1" so the last one would be software enable.
There are no error codes either.

Anybody got an idea?

Greetings,
Max

PS: No Sercos, im running "her" via rs232 .. maybe "her" is also the better gender in this case (:

Address must be 0 to enable w/o sercos.
Motor must be picked and saved to eeprom to enable
ready parameter must be 1
Then she'll sit up and dance for you.

Status word will tell u why no enable

[MaxH]

Hi,

I am afraid it won't be that easy to enjoy the ride.

I guess I set it up correctly:
Attachment 285492

But still when writing to eeprom, i always get the same error:
Attachment 285494

In the motor conf I get an error because of a zero value in the encoder settings:
Attachment 285496
After saving everything "To Drive"
Attachment 285498

After writing to eeprom:
Attachment 285500

In the Feedback config I can see the exact position of the Resolver and adjust it (Communication shoudnt be that broken I guess)
But ofc not start the drive..

In the main menue:
Attachment 285502
Attachment 285504

Guess there are some bigger problems involved :/
Im running motionlink on win7 x64 machine

Anyway thanks for the fast response even after a year

Greetings,
Max

[mike_Kilroy]

Trying to remember all issues while typing on phone....

Echo not rcvd. In terminal window type ECHO 1

HMMMMM on mencres.... type MENCRES 1000 to bmp try to satisfy it.

--> save sounds like msg off? Try MSG 1

[MaxH]

:/ Still getting the echo error
I think the errors arent the problems.. I dont know if the enable command even reaches the drive? shouldnt there be some sort of error or warning when it switches back to disable?

[mike_Kilroy]

enabled/disabled is not a fault, so no.

I forgot you have CD lite.... only a partial drive.... maybe time to toss it in the trash and ebay a full one?

You did not reply to what the 4 in STATUS word means....

FYI:

STATUS

will output the drive status detail words to the serial port. Five words are transferred in ASCII-HEX format, with each word preceded by the letter ‘H’. The words are separated by a space.

The following tables break the status words down bit by bit (bit 15 = MSB; bit 0 = LSB; n/u = not used). For all bits, 0=false and 1=true.

STATUS Word 1: Disable Status Word
If the drive is disabled (Bit 0 of the STAT word = 1), the process(es) which have caused that disable condition will have their bits set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Remote disable (REMOTE = 0)
1 Software disable (SWEN = 0)
2 DIP switch disable (DIPEN = 0)
3 Fault disable
4 Velocity loop design failure
5 Encoder not initialized
6-15 not used

STATUS Word 2: Fault Status Word
If a fault exists (Bit 1 of the STAT word = 1), the fault(s) which exist(s) will have the corresponding bits set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Drive over temperature
1 Over voltage condition
2 Over current condition
3 Feedback loss
4 Under voltage condition
5 Motor over temperature
6 Analog supply fault
7 Over speed condition
8 EEPROM fault
9 EEPROM checksum fault
10 No comp (compensation) for the motor
11 Foldback condition
12 not used
13 Overtravel fault
14 Position deviation fault
15 Interface fault

STATUS Word 3: Safety Status Word
If safety of the drive is compromised (Bit 2 of the STAT word = 1), the condition which is causing that state has its corresponding bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) CWLIM = 1 (motor has reached CW travel limit)
1 CCWLIM = 1 (motor has reached CCW travel limit)
2 LIMDIS = 1 (limit switch function disabled by user)
3 THERMODE > 0 (set to non-zero by the user)
4 FOLD = 1 (drive current foldback mode)
5* LIMDIS=0 & CW switch not routed (INxMODE 1)
6* LIMDIS=0 & CCW switch not routed (INxMODE 2)
7*** Positive Overtravel (PFB > PMAX) with PLIM > 0
8*** Negative Overtravel (PFB < PMIN) with PLIM > 0
9**** MFOLD = 1 (motor current foldback mode)
10-15 not used

STATUS Word 4: Special Mode Status Word
If the drive is in a special operating mode (Bit 3 of the STAT word = 1), the special mode that the drive is in has its corresponding bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Drive is in Step mode (see STEP)
1 Drive is in Burnin mode (factory function)
2 Drive is in Zeroing mode (see ZERO)
3-15 not used

STATUS Word 5: Hold Mode Status Word
If the drive is in Hold mode (Bit 4 of the STAT word = 1), the condition which caused the drive to enter Hold mode has its corresponding bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) User request (user set HOLD = 1)
1 DIP switch setting (DIP switch 7 = 1)
2 Drive is in Active disable state
3 Limit switch(es) tripped: 1. Command is in direction of tripped switch (not in current mode) with drive enabled; or 2. Both limit switches are activated.
4** User input switch hold (INxMODE=19)
5** Internal hold request during homing process.
6-10 SERCOS hold related bits
11 Analog position hold
12-15 not used

Firmware Versions: all, with exceptions:
*-versions 2.1.0 and later
**-versions 3.0.0 and later
*** - versions 3.1.0 and later
**** - versions 3.2.0 and later
Type: variable (R) Range: see above
Units: n/a Default: n/a
Opmodes: all Drive Status: en/dis EEPROM: no

[mike_Kilroy]

STATUS2

will output drive status detail words to the serial port. Six words are transferred in ASCII-HEX format, with each word preceded by the letter ‘H’.

The following tables break the status words down bit by bit (bit 15 = MSB; bit 0 = LSB; n/u = not used). For all bits, 0=false and 1=true.

STATUS2 Word 1: Feedback Loss Status Word
If the drive has experienced a feedback loss fault (Bit 3 of STATUS Word 2 = 1), the condition which caused that fault will have its bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Resolver line break
1 Resolver/Digital Converter Error bit (following err)
2 Sine encoder board initialization failed
3 Line break of encoder A/B input
4 Line break of encoder index input
5 Illegal halls state
6 Line break of encoder C/D input (sine encoder)
7 A/B lines out of range (sine encoder)
8 Burst overflow (sine encoder)
9 external encoder (hand wheel) line break
10 EnDat communication error
11 Hiperface communication error
12 Software resolver sine/cosine signals out of range
13-15 not used

STATUS2 Word 2: Analog Supply Fault Status Word
If the drive has experienced an analog supply fault (Bit 6 of STATUS Word 2 = 1), the condition which caused that fault will have its bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Positive analog supply fault
1 Negative analog supply fault
2-15 not used

STATUS2 Word 3: Position Deviation and Over Travel Fault Status Word
If the drive has experienced position deviation or over travel fault (Bit 14 of STATUS Word 2 = 1), the condition which caused that fault will have its bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Internal Numerical Position Deviation
1 Pos. Error (PE) exceeded max PE limit (PEMAX)
2 Positive Overtravel (PFB > PMAX) with PLIM=1
3 Negative Overtravel (PFB < PMIN) with PLIM=1
4-15 not used

STATUS2 Word 4: Limit Switches Status Word
If the drive has experienced a limit switch fault (Bit 3 of STATUS Word 5 = 1), the condition which caused that fault will have its bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) CW Limit Switch tripped (CWLIM=1)
1 CCW Limit Switch tripped (CCWLIM=1)
2-15 not used

STATUS2 Word 5: Encoder Initialization Failure Word
If the encoder initialization process was failed, the condition which caused that fault will have its bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Too little (less than one rev) or too much (more than one rev) motion
1 Phase A current doesn’t fit the commanded current
2 Phase A current and phase C current doesn’t match
3 At least one of the limit switches was tripped
4 Wake-No-Shake process failed because of internal time-out
5 Wake-No-Shake too high velocity or too much motion (more than quarter of a rev)
6 Wake-No-Shake internal verification failed
7 Wake-No-Shake below minimum required movement
8-15 not used

STATUS2 Word 6: Over Speed Fault Status Word
If the drive has experienced an over speed fault (Bit 7 of STATUS Word 2 = 1), the condition which caused that fault will have its bit set to 1 in this word.
Bit # Description
0 (LSB) Velocity above VOSPD
1 Velocity above 1.8*VLIM
2-15 not used

Firmware Versions: 2.1.0 and later
Type: variable (R) Range: see above
Units: n/a Default: n/a
Opmodes: all Drive Status: en/dis EEPROM: no

[mike_Kilroy]

STATUS words are your friends. They tell you EXACTLY what is happening.

You can see in STATUS word1 that you do not even have REMOTE ENABLE turned on!

I think you probably do not have a motor loaded either, since word 3 shows FOLDBACK! Only way that should be is if current is =>0!

You need to get past your echo faults before you will make this drive work I think.....

[MaxH]

Hi,

Im back in Austria again, tinkering arround since hours.. starting to get slightly insane.

It has a motor loaded and I can get the complete motor information from the drive after i turn it off and on again.
STATUS:
H0000 H0000 H0004 H0000

Means status word 3 bit 2(0 1 2)
2 LIMDIS = 1 so just limit switch disable
STATUS2:
H0000 H0000 H0000 H0000 H0000 H0000

I could start the software now.. the echo faults occur when I try to write to the drive. But everything seemed to have loaded correctly and status tells me Im fine.
Still I can't enable it.
"EN" won't give any message back and of course not activate the drive
Fold is 0
Attachment 286656

I'd really like to try this out with another motor..
Will this drive start or output any error If it tries to start with the wrong settings? Or simply do nothing?

The frustrating part is that is seems to be completely ok.

[mike_Kilroy]

STAT says you have LIMDIS=1 but drive is also NOT ENABLED - see STATUS word 1 why. STATUS word1 is 0 so THAT says drive is ENABLED....

Something is really funky for sure, like fw screwed up maybe. I don't think I even have any lite fw so can't help you with a new flash.

why not attach your .ssv parameter file and I will look at it?

[MaxH]

I was only able to finde winignite.. but no fw.

here is the ssv:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/61swi856bu...AMPLE.SSV?dl=0

Thanks a lot for your effort!

[mike_Kilroy]

no time to llok right now, but tell u what.... send me your drive COMPLETE PART NUMBER and I will ask for the latest last fw before they obsoleted it and send it to you.

[MaxH]

Wow thanks! I sent you a pm with the information. It was all I could find.
I hope this will help.

[mike_Kilroy]

Wow thanks! I sent you a pm with the information. It was all I could find.
I hope this will help.

U said u had a cd litE!
F
That is not a lite! A cd lite starts with L.

I can send u fw for ur cr drive tomorrow.

[MaxH]

I only said it is a Servostar CD, didnt even know that there are differences between the Lite version and the Servostar CD . But I guess that are "good" news, as you don't want me to dump it anylonger I hope : )
Thanks!

[mike_Kilroy]

ok did quick peak at your .ssv file... you have a beta firmware.... prob not good for getting generic drive going... I will send you a decent one to dump in but cant figure your email address yet? pm me ur email address.

You said you have winignite? I dont know what ver of that u have; I will send you latest one too

you are using 5.0.0 ML; sorta hard to use - it was a beta type program too; get the last good easy to use one here:

http://www.kollmorgen.com/en-us/prod...tinued-drives/

I see u can get winignite there too...

I can email u a neat html based parameter describer if u can accept 6mb or so attachment when u send me email address

[MaxH]

Hi! Sry was out of town over the weekend
I flashed it with the new Firmware and tada ~ it works now! And the non beta motion link is also way more smooth.
Really really thank you!

Now I have to fight with the Servo-Settings (or dump the motor and buy another one...) (or Is there any library out there where the settings of the dbl series is described?)

parameter describer? 6mb are no problem! Please send everything that could be usefull (: