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  1. #1
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    May 2012
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    fanuc om-b dnc

    Hi,

    we are having some major issues getting this machine running, i have searched as much as i can and now getting differant answers for the same problems if i tell you all i know then hopefully some one can point me in the right direction!

    im sure its simple but we just cant see it!

    right the machine is a 1987 leadwell fanuc om - b
    we have a rs232 port and we can upload programs to the machine and run them fine (only 16kb)
    we have have changed the parameters to allow us to drip feed
    we have established a handshake between the computer and machine
    we can run the first 20lines of a program and then it comes up with a ps 004 alarm < this is where we are stuck

    i am using one cnc to transfer my programs and not had a problem so far!

    my settings are 2800 baud rate
    data bits 7
    parity even
    stop bits 2

    xon/xoff starting at the machine...

    like i say we can get 20 lines in and it stops so in principle everything is working bar this 004 alarm which i have read is a hash or minus symbol is doesn't like but the program is full of minus symbols and nosh hash symbols so im at a complete loss...

    here is a sample of the code that will run up to a certain point then stop

    %0000
    G00 G90 G54
    G0 G91 G28 Z0.
    M05 G40 G49 G80
    M09
    M06 T1
    M1
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    ....

    i have tried to tell you as much as possible and i have searched as much as i can and im getting no where fast so any assistance is greatly appreciated!!

    many thanks lee

  2. #2
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    look for a setting in your transfer software for a delay between characters
    set is to 20 -50 ms (milliseconds)
    your flow control is Xon/Xoff thats good but it seems that hile your machine is telling your computer that he buffer is full and to pause transmittion it sends a letter that leaves you with
    a minus sign as the first charactor.

    Goo luck

  3. #3
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    i shall try the timing at what you suggested, i also have a format setting which has ignore line prefix nad abox to enter txt and a check box to remove spaces. final setting is to add to the end of line and a text box are any of these of use?

    with the timing delay stop it from starting with a minus symbol?

    thanks for the reply aswell

  4. #4
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    PS004 "ADDRESS NOT FOUND" A numeral or the sign “ – ” was input without an address at the beginning
    of a block. Modify the program .

  5. #5
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    If I send the program to the internal memory it works fine so the program isn't the issue.... Is it not?!

    It's how my laptop is sending it to the machine...

    As if it's stopping in the middle of a block or not buffering right

    Am I making sense?!

    I have no issues drip feeding an Xyz Siemens at work and a fanuc edm but this has me stumped

  6. #6
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    I've seen strange behavior like this before. Are you using a USB to serial convertor? If so, I would open the Advanced tab of the Port Settings in Windows Device Manager & slide the FIFO buffers all the way left and uncheck the Use FIFO buffers check box, OK all then reboot your laptop.

  7. #7
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    Yes I'm using a serial to USB, I will check my settings in the morning and see what they are at the minute.

    In theory shouldn't the machine fill it's 16kb memory then just keep dumping used data and accepting new from the laptop so it looks ahead?!

  8. #8
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    Hi guys,

    i have adjusted the fifo buffer so i have now turned them off and added a timing delay but its still coming up with the 004 ps alarm after the first few lines...

    i cant seem to get around this...

  9. #9
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    Leroy88,

    I had this problem on my 11m as my first ever program was 3 Mb in size (I have 32 Kb memory on the machine). I started using a free dnc (can't remember the name now) program to run the machine and I kept getting an overrun buffer error (I don't recall what the alarm was now) after the first 25 some-odd lines of code. Not trying to advertise, but after switching to dnc4u I had no more problems (dnc4u is fully functional for 60 days before purchase required). I would have liked to try DNC Predator too but it wouldn't allow me to run enough code to test the buffer limit. There are other dnc programs out there what might work as well. After watching my machine run and alarm, the only thing I could determine was that the dnc program wasn't able to stop transmitting fast enough to avoid the buffer overflow. What I find odd is that you can upload a program to the machine memory ok but you are not able to dnc. However, that may be due to your slow send/receive speed which would give the machine's computer plenty of time to store the data before receiving the next bit. My problem happened regardless of interface type - aka it happened for both usb to serial and the built in serial adapters on my computer. Hope this helps. Let us know how it turns out.

  10. #10
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    Leroy, can you please email me the program that is causing the alarm? I'm still confused about the 004 alarm. Or attach it to a private message?

  11. #11
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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

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    Re: fanuc om-b dnc

    thats the program there....

    i know this program works if i put it into the internal memory but i cant drip feed it, it gets about 20 lines in then throws up a 004 alarm.

    just quickly if anyone is local to manchester england of if you can point me in the right direction of someone that could come and get us going id be very grateful

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