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  1. #21
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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    Hi Lucas

    looking at the IR2104 data sheet I agree with your comments

    its a good idea to change the drivers as well as the FETs

    HI Dave

    I've added the component values to this diagram :-

    Attachment 262734

    John

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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    I'm not sure that the driver chips will be bad, depends on the supply voltage used. Measuring the outputs with a DVM in diode setting might give an indication.
    To be sure a scope is needed, replacing these SMD parts without the proper tools isnt' easy without damaging the PCB.

    That big resistor is a wild guess, can't see the tracks and the colour code (black, brown, black, silver...) doesn't make sense, could be green, brown....
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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    Hi Lucas

    working from photos isn't ideal ,but after increasing the saturation the 1st & 3rd bands still look the same colour !

    looking at the photo the resistor marking looks like black , brown , black , silver , brown
    this decodes as 0.1 ohm 1% using this calculator :-
    Resistor color code calculator - 3, 4 and 5 band resistors


    the resistors I normally use conform to this :-
    5 Band Resistor Color Code Calculator and Chart – Online Conversion Calculators | DigiKey Electronics

    an easy check will be to measure the resistor in a working driver

    with the KL 8056 motor current set to t maximum what do you expect the average supply current to be ?

    if the resistor is 0.1 ohm resistor 0.6W , assuming I've estimated the size and read the resistance correctly
    the maximum RMS current will be 2.45A (If the run it to its limit)



    John

  4. #24
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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    Ok, so now I need some help in what you said John and Lucas. I need to check the IR chips, but I am not really understanding how to check them.

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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    This measurement will give a good indication but not a 100% good/bad one.
    It's best to do this with all mosfets removed, the shorted ones MUST be removed or the measurement is useless.
    To remove them easily without damaging the PCB: cut the pins and remove the remainder of the pin from the hole.

    There are 8 measurements for each chip, set the DVM in diode mode and measure in 2 directions between the following pins: (similar to the mosfet measurement you did before).
    One direction should read open and the other a low value, this should be the same between all 4 chips.
    Pins: 1 - 5, 5 - 4, 8 - 7 and 7 - 6.
    Example: red lead on 1, black on 5. Value for chip 1, Value for chip 2, Value for chip 3 , Value for chip 4.
    Next: black lead on 1, red on 5. Value for chip 1, Value for chip 2, Value for chip 3 , Value for chip 4.
    Next: red lead on 5, black on 4. Value for chip 1, Value for chip 2, Value for chip 3 , Value for chip 4.
    etc..

    OK, a little brainfart with the color codes mixing 2 and 3 band ones. That 2.45 Amp looks ok but with a fully loaded motor, it will be much lower on a bench test.
    I would set the current to the minimum value (0.5 A) for testing and the supply current limit to 0.5 also.
    In the absence of a lab supply: use a small DC adapter 24 - 30VDC 0.5 to 1 Amp max.
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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    Got it, will do it tomorrow and post the results

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    Re: Damaged stepper driver, can some one help me with tips on repair?

    Hi Dave

    just to add to Lucas's post , a diagram of the driver chip function and pin out :-

    Attachment 262830


    John

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