Well guys, I am currently doing some weekend warrior duties.. But look forward to getting the Charter Oaks machine this week, Hoss got me turned onto the GMT vises and I ordered the GPV-615 Glacern Machine Tools - GPV-615 Premium Vise They were friendly and gave free shipping without too much of a fight. They claim they are 100% USA made, I am having mixed feelings on that and am curious if the salesman was feeding me a line. He stated that they have them forged in TX. I looked on their site and it does not say MADE IN THE USA in bold anywhere and I am curious about why they would not be a bit more proud? Anywho, I will try to make some more chips soon, thanks for the subscriptions and interest.