[cncadmin]

Is it me or is everything being make in china, now Levis jeans are being made in China. Oh well no more Levis for me!

[Rekd]

I know my son was made in the good 'ol US of A

'Rekd

[anoel]

What is really funny is that it seems like everyone in every other part of the world complains that they can't get anything and that we have easy access to it all... You'd think that with so much of our industrial parts being made internationally there would be an abundance of parts elsewhere.

[cncadmin]

My problem is that I'm not employed, I was laid off and work is getting harder to come buy when everything is going overseas.

[Rekd]

Paul, the economy is on it's way back up, hold tight, something will come along.

'Rekd

[bb99]

This is a jobless recovery! I'm in the software industry and I see our jobs moving off shore. With all us Americans out of work, who's going to buy the Levi's?

--bb99

[cncadmin]

Even customer support is done in India, for support of US customers.

[whiteriver]

Tonight on the news. 300,000+ people gave up looking for work last month. Only 1000 new jobs created last month. Mostly in the retail and foodservice industries. Didn't say how many were lost. Did say last year was the 3rd year in a row with more lost jobs than created(i think thats how it went) Worst case in over 60 years. Sounds like we are still in a depression.
I wish I governmet would get into gear and pass a energy buget. It should have been passed back in October. But I guess they decided it was more important to go on vacation than work. My business depends on that budget. Havent had work in 2 months.
Guess its more important to rebuild other contries than fix our own.

Donny

[Ken_Shea]

The American consumer is to a large part responsible for this off shore catastrophe we are in. We will not pay the price that companies must have to make a profit from their ever-increasing expense to produce a product. They are after all in business to make a profit. It is not a company’s obligation to raise us, feed us, retire us, care for us, provide an education for us and all the other factors America thinks companies ought to do for them. America has no reasonable priorities, I see it every day here at my store when they will pay $500 for a new gun and in the next breath tells how bad their employer is taking advantage of them or complain that they just had to spend $200 to get their cars brakes fixed. Who needs a $500 gun? While saying they cannot afford the price of food, gas or the cost to repair their car. America has lost sight of reality. We have asked for it and now we are getting it.

My motto and advice for our world is “Stop Global Whining”

For all the readers who the above statement is going to anger, I ask…. Is it not true? Certainly not in all cases but in most.

Ken

[Rekd]

Originally posted by Ken_Shea
The American consumer is to a large part responsible for this off shore catastrophe we are in. We will not pay the price that companies must have to make a profit from their ever-increasing expense to produce a product. They are after all in business to make a profit. It is not a company’s obligation to raise us, feed us, retire us, care for us, provide an education for us and all the other factors America thinks companies ought to do for them. America has no reasonable priorities, I see it every day here at my store when they will pay $500 for a new gun and in the next breath tells how bad their employer is taking advantage of them or complain that they just had to spend $200 to get their cars brakes fixed. Who needs a $500 gun? While saying they cannot afford the price of food, gas or the cost to repair their car. America has lost sight of reality. We have asked for it and now we are getting it.

My motto and advice for our world is “Stop Global Whining”

For all the readers who the above statement is going to anger, I ask…. Is it not true? Certainly not in all cases but in most.

Ken

[list=a][*]49% of America's 'poor' are home owners.[*]57% of America's 'poor' have air conditioning.[*]76% of America's 'poor' live in a home with 2 rooms per person![/list=a]

To me, this seems a bit out of context in that America's 'poor' are not poor at all. Hell, if a pan-handler can make $10.00/hr begging for money...

'Rekd

[anoel]

My company is huge, I work in their IT department, we've got approximately 5,000 IT employees in my building alone. We do a lot of our own in-house development for about any major system that you can think of. The last few years we've been contracting out a lot of development companies from India. India is making a big dent in the business software industry. They do a good job and are very timely. India has been educating their people in a very viable field. We don't under pay the offshore developers so it's not like the sweat shops of the past and we still hire regularly for domestic developers. I think that Timely deliverables is the key to why we keep going back to India.

[DaSigntist]

You go in Wal-Mart and what do you see but signs that say "KEEP AMERICA WORKING" as you check out with all your "made in China" crap........Hmmm.

[Ken_Shea]

Originally posted by DaSigntist
You go in Wal-Mart and what do you see but signs that say "KEEP AMERICA WORKING" as you check out with all your "made in China" crap........Hmmm.

Exactly DaSigntist,
We are all getting that Wallymart mentality, cheap, cheap, cheap, we all need to start whistling like a bird when we go there
They are a huge company that hypes "We are a family" crap to their employees while they pay them wages that one can barely exist on. Wall-Mart is not America’s friend or answer and has been the demise of more small business then one can imagine.

[DaSigntist]

BTW: Did you know Wal-Mart (AKA China crap pushers) is the biggest world employer with 1.5 million employees!

They employ more people then the US military . . . scary.

Wal-Mart better be ready to protect us when China wants to use all the weapons they bought with our money.

[Ken_Shea]

While checking the accuracy of DaSigntist statement of Wal-Mart being the worlds largest employer (And he is correct)

I did find this,
WAL-MART, WORLD'S LARGEST RETAILER, FOUND GUILTY BY PORTLAND, OREGON JURY FORCED WORKERS TO WORK UNPAID OVERTIME

http://www.organicconsumers.org/clot..._sweatshop.cfm

This greed is what so often puts good people out of a job.

This is my last statement about Wal-Mart "They Suck"

Next post will be CNCZone related.

[cncadmin]

Originally posted by Ken_Shea


Next post will be CNCZone related.

This is the NON-CNC section.

[Ken_Shea]

Originally posted by CNCadmin
This is the NON-CNC section.

I see it is Paul,

Well every one.......carry on

[duluthboat]

I removed my last remarks. They sounded much better late last night with a little rum. Paul you have a great site here and I’m only a minor member, as we get closer to Nov. things will get very polarized, I would hate to see that happen here. The net is full of sites to debate politics, this is where I come to get away from them. Just my opinion.

Gary

[Bloy2004]

Its a world economy... United States was built upon free enterprize. Everyone is just joining in. We talk of "china" or "India" as objects, but we must be reminded that these countries(neighbors) are comprised of people. Who profitted when the prices of OSB board, commonly used for siding and roofing, jumped from $9 bucks a sheet to almost $30 bucks a sheet after the US government bought up large quantities and shipped to Iraq to rebuild an infrastructure that was unnecessarily destroyed?

my "off the cuff" 1.5 cents worth here in this thread...

[HuFlungDung]

What I find most perplexing, is the real advantages that accrue from the totally fictitious values placed on different currencies. China pegs their money at a fixed, low rate relative to the US Dollar. How can you compete with that? How can they afford to consume some of what is produced in North America?

Competition through better technology is also a mirage, the proverbial carrot in front of the donkey. Any advantage bestowed by better manufacturing technology soon becomes the accepted standard. In the meanwhile, all that technology has accomplished is driving the price down, "forcing" everyone to work just as much as they did before (because we are greedy), producing more, and flooding the market with more goods, at the lower price.

I don't know what the real solution is, but it might even the score a bit if there were a universal medium of exchange, and we all agreed that a loaf of bread was worth 10 minutes of your time