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  1. #1
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    Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    I am planning to make diy fixed gantry mill


    Working area 1000mmx600mm

    Also i am considering bt30atc 12000rpm spindle as in pictures.

    I need an idea of counterweight system for z axis


    Does anyone have any ideas. or related image or video
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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    I used gas springs to counterweight a heavy spindle. They worked much better than the constant-force springs I tried first (which broke) and were easier to implement than an actual counterweight, which needs to accommodate the sideways motion of the axis as it moves in Y.
    Andrew Werby
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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chmfhm View Post
    I am planning to make diy fixed gantry mill


    Working area 1000mmx600mm

    Also i am considering bt30atc 12000rpm spindle as in pictures.

    I need an idea of counterweight system for z axis


    Does anyone have any ideas. or related image or video
    If you build it correct you won't need a counterweight most would use an air cylinder for a machine this size if it needed it, normally all you need if your Servo motor is sized correct is a Brake which on most machining centers is built into the Servo motor, some are on the Z axis Ballscrew, mostly though are on the Servo Motor with using an air cylinder it is just a closed loop system with an air reservoir
    Mactec54

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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Hi,
    if your Z axis servo/ballscrew combination either cannot or struggles to pick up its own axis weight and spindle WITHOUT the assistance of counterweight or
    similar how the hell do you expect it to deal with cutting forces and Up/Down acceleration?. The Z axis should have easily tens times the thrust of its own weight.

    Craig

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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Often the problem isn't in driving the axis up and down, but having the axis fall to the table when power to it is turned off. A brake, like Mactec refers to, can also stop that from happening, but it can be hard to implement if the motor doesn't come equipped with one.
    Andrew Werby
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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Hi,
    I used 750W Delta B2 servos on my new mill. The unbraked ones were $438USD per kit (servo, drive and cables) and the one braked one I got for the Z axis cost $541USD.
    The extra $102USD for the brake is a no brainer.

    Craig

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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by awerby View Post
    Often the problem isn't in driving the axis up and down, but having the axis fall to the table when power to it is turned off. A brake, like Mactec refers to, can also stop that from happening, but it can be hard to implement if the motor doesn't come equipped with one.
    All servo motor manufacturers offer their motors with or without a Brake, it's as simple as buying the right motor for your application
    Mactec54

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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Thx everyone i will go for servo motors with brakes

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    Re: Need Suggestions On Diy Fixed Gantry Mill

    Quote Originally Posted by Chmfhm View Post
    Thx everyone i will go for servo motors with brakes
    You only need a servo motor with a Brake for the Z axis only
    Mactec54

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