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  1. #21
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    200 dollar paper weight if you ask me.

  2. #22
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Could it be a grounding Issue? I have the smoothstepper bolted to a piece of wood along with the rest of the components I did this for testing.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Yes, it could be a grounding issue.
    Gerry

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  4. #24
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Did you try a different Ethernet cable? Do you have more than one Ethernet adapter in the computer, are you using the right one. One suggestion is to remove the computer from the network, and plug the ESS directly into the CNC computer using a patch cable with the null modem wire arrangement. This means that transmit and receive are reversed they sell these at most computer stores. If you are seeing the ESS when you go into config this is probably not the issue, because it does send a message to the ESS when it talks and it shows when you go to configure MACH3. The LED blinks you reported sounds correct. You might want to try this test to ensure that nothing on the network is causing issues.

    Russ

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    I will try grounding it this morning, The cable im using to connect the ss came with my rogers modem, It says PATCH cable on the side Ive just replaced it with a brand new one. My computer has a built in ethernet port on the back ( its a desktop) I have the drivers installed for it as well. I connect to the internet on this computer with a pci wifi card so it shouldnt be conflicting with the built in LAN port.

    I Just tried it with a new cable and disabling the wifi card, still the same issue.


    Nothing is working, I just grounded it, tried new cable, new install of mach, new install of windows. still mach freezes when I leave the ports and pins config.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    What version of Mach3? Have you tried a different version?
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Mach3 Version 3.043.062 as recommended on the cncrouterparts website, I can try the latest version right now and get back to you in a minute.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    installed Mach3 Version 3.043.066. and plugin for ss, still the same issue.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Mach3Version3.042.020 is the oldest one I could find and it did not freeze up after exiting the menu. looks like im on to something but dont go away just yet knowing my luck.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    YAY!!!! i got it to work! if only I had of tried the older version sooner.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    THANKS alot for the help everyone I really appreciate it, I will probably be starting another thread for motor tuning so you haven`t seen the last of me.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Did you try 3.043.062? That's the current recommended version for use with the ESS, I think.
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    yea that is the version I could not get going, now im on 3.042.020 and am able to get the motor to turn but its SOOOOO slow I think it should be faster, it moves about 4 RPM and doesnt change when I mess around with the motor velocity and acceleration.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Quote Originally Posted by scrogathon View Post
    yea that is the version I could not get going, now im on 3.042.020 and am able to get the motor to turn but its SOOOOO slow I think it should be faster, it moves about 4 RPM and doesnt change when I mess around with the motor velocity and acceleration.
    Your steps/per may not be set correct

    I have all the versions of Mach3 and they all work with the SmoothStepper, most likely something happened on the install, would not be the first time

    3.043.062 is the recommended software for the ESS, something wrong with the install or computer, if it is not working
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    any idea where I should start? I thought I was good with electronics but I think its just the buying parts part.

    Changing the values does NOTHING so im at a loss yet again.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    well I feel stupid, I had been changing the x axis (which is not hooked up) and watching the Z axis waiting for changes to happen. SMH. lol

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Quote Originally Posted by scrogathon View Post
    any idea where I should start? I thought I was good with electronics but I think its just the buying parts part.

    Changing the values does NOTHING so im at a loss yet again.
    There are many thing that could be at play as far as the speed goes, I guess you have set up using Metric in Mach3, then try your steps/per at 200 or 400 if you are using Metric in motor Tuning
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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    sorry I did get it to move and I can get it to spin very fast, I think I now have it figured out at least the part where I test the steppers, I need to go put them onto the machine and hopefully I get it going with not many issues.

    The machine I built is a crp4848 with extrusion base and has been collecting dust for 3 years, im a happy camper now.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    Did anyone ever figure out what was going on here? I too have tried version .62 as recommended and .66. Both Versions cause Mach3 to lock up when attempting to modify ports and pins. Works fine with the crappy USB BOB that I have. But if I use the ethernet smoothstepper it becomes unstable.

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    Re: Ethernet Smoothstepper killing me

    ***SOLVED*** for those that are currently experiencing the same problem as mentioned here I've found the solution. Its actually REALLY simple. When you first install mach3 and/or Ethernet SS you get the error (Emergency Stop not assigned). If you go into (ports and pins) and attempt to change any setting prior to first setting the emergency stop it will lock Mach3 up. Assign the emergency stop in ports and pins, and then click apply, then OK and restart mach3 so the settings are wrote to XML. Once restarted you can then make the appropriate changes needed in ports and pins without it locking up. It's seems that this may be some sort of bug that it you attempt to change any setting prior to assigning the emergency stop once you close ports and pins, mach3 throws a fit trying to recover from not having the emergency stop assigned yet. I've successfully managed to get 062 working using this.

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