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  1. #1
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    Edge Probing

    Hello,

    I have now gotten my probe connected and working.
    and would like to do some edge(profile) probing with Mach3.
    Is there a macro or wizard available for this function.

    Thanks,
    Tom

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    There is no macro avalable for this at this time at some point we will be building a wizard to help with this.

    thanks
    Brian

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    I've searched here and the Mach support forum and couldn't find any updated info on an edge probing wizard. Any progress?

    I just purchased a touch probe for the purpose of edge probing only to discover that it (apparently) isn't possible with Mach.

    I guess the main thing I need is a "XY arc probe" move and I can write the macro myself.

    Thanks,

    Steve

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    Gerry

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    Gerry, that looks perfect! Thanks for the pointer.

    Steve

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    Steve--Where you able to get the Razordance probing routines to work?
    Thanks
    Nelson

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    No, unfortunately I never did not get the probing routines to work correctly.

    I started doing some troubleshooting, but had to switch gears and never got back to it. I did get some basic movement, but it was very inconsistent. It appeared to me that the routines were not picking up my values - which could be an indication of a installation error.

    At some point I will revisit this because probing is something I do need from time to time. I find it really hard to believe that there isn't any built-in support from Mach to do this in a reliable way. Ian has created some nice utilities, but there's no proper interface provided by Mach and it seems buggy at best.

    Steve

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    Steve--Thanks for your feedback. Is there any way that you (or anyone) knows to give the probing routing the 2D coordinates from a dxf shape to follow when doing the 3D probing? I think in some or most cases the outside shape is known and just need to probe the 3D.
    Looks like this would be a good addition to the digitizing wizard for Mach3.
    Nelson

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    Nelson, I *think* the Razordance package does allow specifying a 2d boundary around the part to be probed. There are people who have this working, so I don't know what is causing my problems. It would be worth giving it a try.

    There is more info on the Mach discussion forum.

    http://www.machsupport.com/forum/ind...ic,4352.0.html

    Steve

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    Steve--I had asked Ian about this and he said that currently his software doesn't allow for inputing the 2 axis perimeter.
    Seems like a person should be able to use CAD to generate the outside shape, fill the inside with points spaced as desired and then generate a program using something like a G81 drill cycle in conjunction with G31 to create the "bed of nails" output.
    Probably not that simple or someone would have done it by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by palenn View Post
    Seems like a person should be able to use CAD to generate the outside shape, fill the inside with points spaced as desired and then generate a program using something like a G81 drill cycle in conjunction with G31 to create the "bed of nails" output.
    Probably not that simple or someone would have done it by now.
    Actually, I don't think it would be that hard. Basically read a .dxf of points and create a g-code file with a G31 for each point.

    I create my g-code with an AutoCAD macro I wrote. This would be pretty simple to do in AutoCAD with VBA.
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    Gerry--Is this something we could twist your arm into doing for the rest of us "non-programmers"?
    Nelson

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    One, I'm not a programmer. I could write an AutoCad macro, but not a stand alone app to do it. Unfortunately, I don't have the time right now. Perhaps in a few months
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    An update. There are now new versions of probe25D.tap and M90000.m1s which appear at the moment to get over the problems that some users have experienced. Many thanks to Nelson who has steadfastly stuck with the testing. For those that already have the routines, just download probe.zip from the usual place, unpack and copy the above two files over your originals - no need to re-install the .dll. IMPORTANT: On Mach's main menu, select Config/General Config.. and TICK Ignore M calls while loading - before loading probe25D.tap. Otherwise it won't work. A re-read of the updated readme can't hurt.

    Cheers

    Ian

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    And thanks to Ian for "steadfastly sticking with the testing".
    Nelson

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    interesting

    can you tell me if his probe25D.tap is part of the plugin on the Artsoft site?

    http://www.machsupport.com/plugins.php

    or is this for the razor plugin?

    I am getting doube points of the Artsoft plug in. one for touch and one for retract.

    thanks. Rich

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    Hi Rich

    No - probe25D.tap is nothing to do with the Artsoft plugins. It's (one) part of the suite of routines I wrote in an attempt to address what I saw as a shortfall in Mach3 probing. (Note you need the supporting stuff as well - probe25D.tap won't work on its own).

    Cheers

    Ian

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