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  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
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    MILL TURN UPGRADES

    I've made a few upgrades to my machine to improve performance. All were done without any changes to the machine frame, just swapping out components.

    1. I changed the drive ratio on the X axis to 1-1 by putting a 42 tooth pulley on the motor and a new longer belt. that gives me a reliable 40 IPM rapid on the X, with as much as 60 available, but I like to be conservative.

    2. I changed the drive pulley on the Z axis to a 24 tooth ( original was 18) giving me a 3-1 ratio instead of the 4-1 original. Changing the pulley was all that was necessary, as the original belt was long enough. That improved the Z rapids to 20 IPM- I could get 30 on the downstroke, but not on the up- I'm working on a gas strut add-on now to see if that helps.
    I think the motor could run a 36 tooth pulley, making the ratio 2-1, but because of the diameter of the pulley, it would require modifying the motor mount and the sheet metal cover and going to a longer belt.

    3. While doing the Z modification I also added a belt adjusting device which made it a bit easier to set the belt tension- once again just making a couple simple parts, without modifying the machine frame.

    4. I added and ESS ( Ethernet Smooth Stepper) unit to the machine, because other forums reported that it improves the speed and smoothness of the steppers as opposed to the factory parallel port setup. They were right about that, the steppers are smoother, but unfortunately the ESS does not support the P.I.D. function of mach 3, so maintaining consistent RPM for threading and CSS is not possible. The people at ESS say they are adding this function soon, but I would wait until it is included before investing in one.

    5. I modified my faceplate so that I can swap back and forth between the 3 and 4 jaw chucks quickly. Once again it only required some hole drilling.

    I have some other ideas in mind, including changing from V-Belt drives on the spindles to tooth belts and making a 5C collet closer setup.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
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    Re: MILL TURN UPGRADES

    Small block
    I have not seen the machine yet and would like to know the spindle mount type. I have a 5C closure on my lathe that I would like to adapt to the Mill Turn. Is this spindle a standard mount like a D4 or a LOO type or is it a plain back mount that bolts to the chuck with a non-standard pattern.

  3. #3
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    Re: MILL TURN UPGRADES

    EP,
    The spindle has a bolt on face plate which has a machined shoulder that centers the 3 jaw chuck, which is then secured with 3 bolts. The shoulder also matches the recess in my Chinese 4 jaw chuck, so all I had to do was use one of the 3 bolt holes already there, then add 3 more to mount the 4 jaw. My plan for the collet is to use a collet block set which has a Hex and a Square 5C block. For quick work I plan to just chuck the hex block in the 3 jaw and build a wheel type closer through the spindle. The accuracy will only be as good as the 3 jaw chuck in this setup, but I can also mount the 4 jaw, and use the square block and dial it in as close as I want.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jun 2015
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    Re: MILL TURN UPGRADES

    Any idea if the Nowforever VFD can utilize a braking resistor? It seems like the spindle takes a bit more to stop then I'd like when it comes to tapping so I've been looking into either adding a braking resistor or swapping out the VFD for something like the Hitachi WJ200

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
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    Re: MILL TURN UPGRADES

    Try your settings in P0-009 and P0-010 These are the acceleration and deceleration times. On the mill spindle with a tap running at low rpm you can probably get away with a setting of .1 seconds. However on the lathe, because of the inertia of the 6" chuck, it cannot decelerate that fast and may fault out, so you may need to re-set those to the default setting of .5 when doing lathe work.

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