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  1. #1
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    Flatbed Cutter - Tangential, Oscillating Knife, Creasing

    Hello,

    I've been a lurker for a while now and I have finally decided to make myself a CNC flatbed cutter.

    First a little intro.

    I own a signage company and we already have a pretty decent CNC router that we have bought from a local manufacturer and we are pretty happy with it.

    Now however we want to build ourselves a CNC flatbed cutter.

    In case some of you (probably most) don't know what a flatbed cutter is...it's basically a CNC gantry router that instead of having a spindle has various cutting heads, usually knives, that cut light materials like PVC foam board, lexan, vinyl, paper, rubber and so on. We actually consider/ed making these heads ourselves but it's a bit beyond us at this time so we've decided that for the time being we will buy them from
    https://www.damencnc.com/en/tools/ta...ial-knife/1583

    We are looking for a travel speed of some 30m/min. I'm actually not sure if the oscillating knife will be able to keep up with it in thicker materials but as said, we will try to develop these tools in the future so we want the machine to be able to travel these speeds.

    One advantage of a flatbed cutter is that there aren't as many resistance forces at work here as in a traditional CNC router as for say wood because most of the materials are very light so the cutter doesn't have to be as rigid as it would be if it needed to cut these heavier materials.

    There are some things I've decided and the rest I don't really know a lot about and am still researching and hoping for advice here as well.



    Size: 300x200cm

    This is the standard size of most materials in our industry, I don't see why the size should be a problem in a CNC like this (because it doesn't have to be extremely rigid) but if it is I guess we could cut it down some if it's absolutely necessary.

    Speed - Around 30m/min


    Those are really our only requirements. The gantry needs to carry the 3 tools, they around 2.5kg a piece so a total of some 7,5kg which I think isn't that heavy.

    The rest I am pretty clueless about to be honest.

    For the bed we are going to be using a special vacuum foam for holding down stuff, I was planning on using side channel blowers to power the vacuum table but I am not sure what kind of table design to use for the mat, the seller of the mat told me to use a vacuum table with 5mm blind holes that let the vacuum through a 0,6mm opening in, according to him we would get the effective vacuum of a 5mm hole but only a loss of a 0,6mm hole once a cut in the material is made. Ideas ?


    Regarding the rest, I honestly don't really know what to do.

    I am currently looking at:

    - Motors. Stepers vs servos ? Suggestions ?
    - Rails - No clue in this regard
    - Construction - What design and what material. I have a team of pretty skilled welders so welding a sturdy construction together is no issue. My current CNC router is made mostly out of steel (the base anyway but a whole lot of steel on the gantry as well)
    - Software - I was planning on using Mach3 because of it's wide support as well as having native tangential cutting support.


    [B]- Everything else [/B

    This is the part that concerns me the most at this point to be honest. I am currently researching but it's a bit overwhelming right now, I do know a fair bit about CNC routers and have been doing research for years but now that it's coming all together it is a bit too much at once.

    I would appreciate any advice you can give me, not just answers to these questions but these are some that come to mind right now:

    - Belt vs ball screw

    I read somewhere and while doing research on the most prominent flatbed cutters like Zund and Konsberg found that most of the flatbed cutters use belt drives instead of ball screw drives. Any suggestions here ?

    Stepper vs Servo

    I know that steppers are cheaper and easier to setup because of the lack of encoders but I also know that servos are much better for high speeds so any suggestions here would be much appreciated.


    The rest of the parts...

    I am a bit clueless here in my mind the major things here are:

    - Motors
    - Drivers
    - Cutting heads
    - Construction
    - Control Board


    What about the rest though, the linear rails, the carriages, nuts, bolts and so on ?


    For the end a flatbed cutter that seems to work quite well and seems DIY, I could show you a $200k Zund flatbed cutter but that would be unrealistic so here is a pretty good looking DIY one:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7s24MxNbDo

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3hVeC1Ub1Y


    I really hope that some of you guys can help me out with this.


    Thanks in advance!

  2. #2
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    Re: Flatbed Cutter - Tangential, Oscillating Knife, Creasing

    Interesting project. I'd consider cable driving a machine lit this. Imagine the gantry setting on and locked onto the lower rail. Then run a chin cable from it, around a sheave at one end then back to a capstan on the motor shaft, The cable can then wrap around the capstan a couple of times and then continue out and around a sheave at the other end and back to the gantry on the other side. When the motor turns it takes up cable on one side and releases it in the other thus moving the gantry. Costs will be tiny compared to ball screws or gear drives. As to material for construction and a source for rails I suggest reading the threads on tee block construction a few lines below this thread at the thread header level.

  3. #3
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    Re: Flatbed Cutter - Tangential, Oscillating Knife, Creasing

    hmm.

    I'm not entirely sure that I understand how that would work.

    As far as the construction of the machine itself is concerned does anyone have any advice on what the best way to do so would be to go about it ?

    I have a team of TUV certified welders in my company so I am greatly leaning towards that option as compared to using the X Aluminium profiles that some people use.

    I'll start working on the project soon and keep everyone updated.

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