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  1. #1
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    heads spinning

    hi everybody!! is it possible to wire a 5 axes break out board to 4.4 easy drivers if so how??? and also is it possible to hard wire a arduino pro mini and the easy drivers to a cnc shield that was designed for a nano and a4899's? i want to keep the laser function it offers....all help is so appreciated

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    In principle yes -
    links to the circuit diagrams (schematics) and layouts for the driver boards , arduino pro and nano boards will be helpfull to study the fine detail

    what 5 axis breakout board are you thinking of using ?

    both the A3967 (on the easy driver ) and A4899 require a minimum of 2 control inputs - step & direction at 3.3V or 5V logic levels

    these control signals can be from a breakout board connected to a PC's parallel printer port , or a shield with an arduino pro or a nano


    since the A4899 driver board & A3967 easy driver board are non pin compatable and can only be pluged into the correct shield

    my first thought is you will need to plug the easy drivers into its shield wired to headers that mimic the A4899 driver

    John

    PS

    I've just ha a quick look for the A3967 & A4899 board pinouts

    Attachment 334934

    Attachment 334936


    note-
    the easy driver has its own onboard 5V regulator
    you need an external 5V supply for the smaller A4988 board

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    Re: heads spinning

    lol i dont know where my reply keeps going but im using a sainssmar t5 axes parralle port bob i have the step n dir all figured out and the spindle but my driver cards have no power going to them im clearly missing a step somewhere

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    now I know what the breakout board looks like

    Attachment 335010

    the manual I have found on line is short of a few details
    Attachment 335012

    as soon as I can I'll post a diagram of how I think the breakout board and A3967 easy driver boards should be connected

    John

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    Re: heads spinning

    im surprised i have hair still lol thanks so much for your help john

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    Re: heads spinning

    i found this, to bad its all chinese to me lo lhttp://www.ebay.com/itm/5-axis-CNC-Breakout-Board-with-optical-coupler-For-Stepper-Motor-Driver-MACH3/321565835927?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkpa rms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc% 3D39035%26meid%3Dbae461e123b04b4b9a7edf514efadffa% 26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D121480961 528

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    after finding this online -
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    I reduced the wiring to the minimum

    Attachment 335072

    replaced the redboard with your breakout board

    Attachment 335074

    looking at the easydriver board its possible to over look the connection for the logic power supply to the A3967 stepper driver
    is Yellow LED on ?

    Attachment 335076

    looking at the circuit diagram
    by default jumper SJ1 is closed to use the on board regulator - you need to cut the link to use an external 5V logic supply

    John

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    Re: heads spinning

    im sorry im so daft what do youmean cut the link

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    Re: heads spinning

    is there a way to wire the pro mini to this sheid Grbl Shield v2.2 nano breakout - Bing images

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    in reply to your question
    "im sorry im so daft what do you mean cut the link"

    its not a daft question - you have to look very close to see the link (SJ1)

    Attachment 335390

    I would leave the SJ1 link in tact and not connect an external 5V supply to JP4

    I will need to study the photos of the pro mini to this sheid Grbl Shield v2.2 nano breakout to
    answer your next question

    John

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    so far I have not found the Grbl Shield v2.2 nano breakoutboard manual to give you a full answer to your question but

    compairing the pinout of the Arduino Pro Mini and nano

    Attachment 335392

    Attachment 335394


    most of the Arduino Pro Mini and nano pins line up

    Attachment 335396


    I need to see the circuit of the Grbl Shield v2.2 nano to be sure but its possible
    you could plug the Arduino Pro Mini into a 24pin socket thats han pins 13 to 16 removed

    for example 24 pin wire wrap socket
    ic socket 24pin wire wrap | Jameco Electronics


    John

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    my first attempt at a Nano to Pro adaptor to plug a 24pin pro into a 30pin nano socket

    Attachment 335480


    John

    PS
    if your not good with a soldering iron

    use a 24 pin wire wrap socket with pins 13 to 20 bent up
    and use male to female jumper wires to connect A0 to A3 in the correct order and
    D10 to D13 to the 30 pin socket that don't line up with the 24pin PRO

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    Re: heads spinning

    i planned on using a mach 3 bob board as i have two handy but everytime i put my external power suppy into the mach 3 board then run wires to the top power and grind it allstartsto smoke so im grasping at straws here looking at myarduino bucket attempting to get this beast moving

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    post a diagram showing exactly what you used and how you connected it all together

    John

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    Re: heads spinning

    john-100, I just have to say: You are AMAZING for all the effort you have put into helping people on here with pictures of their wiring diagrams. Really impressed by your dedication and clarity and helpfulness. Wow.

    Now, if I could get you to spend some of that time helping me update the FAQ I maintain, that would be a real win! ,o)
    James hosts the single best wiki page about steppers for CNC hobbyists on the net:
    http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/steppers.htm Disagree? Tell him what's missing! ,o)

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi James

    thank you for your comments

    you know what they say - pictures are worth a thousand words

    knowing not every one here has any electronics experience

    what makes sense to me as I'm typing isn't necessarily going to make sense to everybody reading it

    I think the pictures are needed sometimes to make sense of any description of how to repair or modify electronic devices

    even something simple like using a new ATX to replace an old AT power supply used in an old legacy system
    readymade adaptor cables are available if you don't want to
    make your own by connecting an inline ATX plug to the wires taken from a faulty ATpower supply

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    John

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    Re: heads spinning

    sorry about the way long delay...ok so my update I know how to wire up my drivers on a bread board,ive made a power lab out of a atx the only part im stumped on is how to hook it up to my drivers when I tried doing it directly I got a smoke show, hoping to avoid that this time lol ps sorry no clue how to fritz so no pic

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    Re: heads spinning

    Hi jeannine

    was it the power supply or the drivers that emitted the smoke signals ??

    did you use 12V from one ATX supply
    or did you try to use both the +12V & -12V outputs to get 24v ??

    the -12V output usually is limited to about half an amp -
    if you try to take more , the +12V output forces current the wrong way into the -12V output

    details of how you connected everything together - photos or a diagram would be usefull
    and the link to the guide you followed to use an ATX power supply as a bench supply will help

    an adaptor to plug the ATX supply into is safer than drilling holes into the ATX suppy its self to install binding posts in the ATX power supply

    example -http://www.instructables.com/id/Computer-Power-Supply-to-Bench-Power-Supply-Adapte/

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    it also has the advantage the ATX power supply can still be used in a PC


    John

    PS
    ready made adaptor

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