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    Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Which of the following button is DRY RUN??

    Thanks!
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    hello, don't u have a "IL" button, or something ( white) , that you can press in combination with the buttons that you don't know what they do ? maybe you will find it maybe it will light up

    also, why do you need dry run ? collision check, program check, 4 what ? kindly !
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    did u just replied without messing my head ? but i am used with that since my 1st post on cnc zone ... pls
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    hello, don't u have a "IL" button, or something ( white) , that you can press in combination with the buttons that you don't know what they do ? maybe you will find it maybe it will light up

    also, why do you need dry run ? collision check, program check, 4 what ? kindly !
    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    did u just replied without messing my head ? but i am used with that since my 1st post on cnc zone ... pls
    WTF are you getting at ?
    What business is it to you why he needs to know, .... probably to prove off a program at a faster speed, like most normal people


    myhaje
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    finally

    WTF are you getting at ? What business is it to you why he needs to know
    i can sugest how 2 check colisions without cas, thus reducing general time setup

    a lot of people complain about duration of setup, because of the need to declare everything also virtual

    nothing new here, just techniques before cas ... cas is safer, is good to be there, but is good to dont regard it as a must

    turn the machine OFF, & clean using a soft cloth dipped in your cutting fluid or a dishwashing liquid
    also try spirit / alcohol and cotton buds for details
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Not overly clear,, but this link.....LINK .... go to page 516

    I assume it is a OSP 7000M control

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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Not easy to read when your buttons is so dirty but i believe it says "TORRKÔRN"

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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Hi

    May be it the same with your operator panel
    Quote Originally Posted by myhäje View Post
    Which of the following button is DRY RUN??

    Thanks!

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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    hey myhaje, instead of cleaning, just stick this to it
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    TORRKÖRN it was. I use dry run to cut air faster where material was already taken out and the program has to be re-run.

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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    TORRKÖRN it was
    ... and still is

    I use dry run to cut air faster where material was already taken out and the program has to be re-run
    why don't u just use restart ? or you must continue from the middle of a long operation / cycle ? in that case, you may use parametric programs ... however, you should reduce / eliminate such unnecesary movements by programing ; kindly !
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    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    however, you should reduce / eliminate such unnecesary movements by programing ; kindly !
    Well, I try my best, but still sometimes inserts refuse to last until the end. Instead of starting to mess with the program, it's just faster to re-run that phase with dry run on to the point where it starts to take material.

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    hello again generally, is faster to go dry than to reload the program

    fast insert wear, especially when cutting single parts, is a mess i would recomend some better inserts; this is all i can tell

    i experienced with different setups and different inserts from dealers, and in the end i found something better; i have done this because my inserts did not last long

    so far i had problems only when roughing; inserts that i have now are ok for roughing, actually so ok, that they push the material if is not clamped well, so this is why i started crafting hard jaws

    another issue is the spindle speed; i don't go over 2000rpm on the 10"chuck, even if the insert can take it ... i don't like how the machine behaves at this speeds, so i preffer to protect the spindle / kindly !

    ps : i can hit 2000rpm 0.7mm/o 1mm depth on diameter 65, and i feel that the spindle can take much more, but the Z axis is loaded ... is like how the S motor is much powerful than the Z
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post

    ps : i can hit 2000rpm 0.7mm/o 1mm depth on diameter 65, and i feel that the spindle can take much more, but the Z axis is loaded ... is like how the S motor is much powerful than the Z
    Err..... it's a milling machine you dill...not a bloody lathe

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    Quote Originally Posted by myhäje View Post
    Well, I try my best, but still sometimes inserts refuse to last until the end. Instead of starting to mess with the program, it's just faster to re-run that phase with dry run on to the point where it starts to take material
    i think there may be a way for an inside cycle restart, without program optimization / i will be back on this
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    i think there may be a way for an inside cycle restart, without program optimization / i will be back on this
    pls check attached image that highlighted value, during machining, it counts internal operations, without connection to the N**** address

    thus, when an insert goes, just remember than number, which is a link for the current operation

    reset, change insert, and restart the program with a value lower than the one where your insert got screwed

    generally, try restarting on a line where the tool is out of the material, or is about to enter ( preferably tangent ) inside the material

    this is 4 osp 300 ; hope it retrofits

    same for lathe : i had an operation which starts with the tailstock active, and during it the tailstock leaves; there is no chance to restart inside this *.ssb by using normal methods, unless :
    ... each line has an N**** address, which i don't use pretty often, or
    ... direct restart is used, but still not possible, because you can not select a line inside the *.ssb / kindly !
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    Hi folks

    I bought a swedish MX45VA with 2 pallets, and live in Denmark.
    Couls anyone explain what IMAP is, please?

    What is MOP-TOOL?

    I worked with the OSP5000M, what is different in the OSP7000M, please?

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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    hello & folks you 2 i-map is a simpler conversational software, for basic operations : best way to figure it out is to see it in action; i have experience only with the i-map of osp300; maybe your okuma rep will instruct you how to use it ?

    *mop is okuma's approach for adaptive control; pls check attached / kindly
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    Re: Any swedish MX-45 machine users out there?

    I-MAP is Interactive Machine Automatic Programming
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