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  1. #221
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    Quote Originally Posted by GooCart View Post
    I just thought I'd show you the pic from the John Catto quote I posted earlier, I just found it.

    i think thats the same guitar i posted!

    haha

    so you are then refering only to the bridge area being flatter. fair enough. im still betting its not a consistent thing though.

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    Center of top flat

    Hey guys,

    I had the pleasure of holding a burst once for 2 weeks that was in transit. It was a mid 59 as I remember. This was a 2nd owner guitar. I gazed over it 24/7. I also had several guitars to compare it to @ the time. I had a hand made guitar from Canada?
    Had one that was made by some guy in Washington state, and also a MAX. The only guitar that had the same top carve was the MAX. By the way the front/rear rings were completely flat on the 59, and the max. When I removed the original mounting rings from the 59 they were flat at the bottom with no curve at all. This indeed made the outer dishing seem severe as well.

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    All 59 Reissues

    If Gibson is also going refer to there R9 guitars as replica, by George this is what needs to be available. It seems that the only one that they even gave attention to were the 40th ann. in 1999.

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    59 burst top carve

    If you can just go to some vintage shows that are known for having more than a few 57-60 les paul standards such as the Dallas, and Arlington shows, just take a small amount of your time and view on all the slight arch @ the end of the fingerboard binding and how it curves above and beyond the front of the neck position mounting ring.

    This flatness seem to go all the way down weel into the location of the tail piece. It really is more consistant than not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scooterville View Post
    If you can just go to some vintage shows that are known for having more than a few 57-60 les paul standards such as the Dallas, and Arlington shows, just take a small amount of your time and view on all the slight arch @ the end of the fingerboard binding and how it curves above and beyond the front of the neck position mounting ring.

    This flatness seem to go all the way down weel into the location of the tail piece. It really is more consistant than not.
    youre confusing me now.

    you are saying the top should be curved at the fretboard, and then flatten out at the bridge?

    or do you mean flat at the fretboard all the way to the bridge?

    because the latter is most definitely not true, as shown very clearly in the photos posted here.


    a '59 refinish:

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    59 top curve

    What I am saying is that it should
    be flat starting at the the end of the fingerboard binding, showing the arch in the end of the fingerboard binding which is raisining over the front side of the neck position mounting ring and remain flat all the way down the body past the outside rear of the tail piece going into the dish bowling area.

    Actually it seems to be the dishing area that could be causing confusion when sizing this all up.

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    59 refin

    Beautiful guitar by the way!!!!!!!!

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    CNC just will cut what you build in 3D, the need to build a good cad top is inportaint and understanding the tooling is a big part of building the LP in 3D.


    like my post over at MLP i would love to build a min stroke sander just for the LP guitars.

    This part of the top seems to be where new builders tend to make dips in the top in 3D and with the disk sander. Here is a older model showing where the low spots seem to stand out. Just think of that big ass sanding belt leveling anything in it's path but still flex to round the contours.






    As far as the top having a flat center i agree, it's flat then sanded semi round at the tangent. I never used a stroke sander but i have alway been told it's a bear to use, one hand on the table one hand on the belt and your foot on the bottom swing. a true anolog 3D shaper.
    keep on trucking!
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  9. #229
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    Talking Will he let us scan it???

    Well, I am within driving distance of larkstreet music....

    http://www.larkstreetmusic.com/stock.html

    He has a '59 les paul....for ONLY 239,000 Dollars!

    Do you think he will let us scan it???

    Oh and by the way......if you look at some of the pics, you will see that there IS a curve on the pickups, as you can tell from the arch on the pickup rings....so it seems that that area is NOT flat, but arched....
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  10. #230
    Quote Originally Posted by CyborgCNC View Post
    Well, I am within driving distance of larkstreet music....

    http://www.larkstreetmusic.com/stock.html

    He has a '59 les paul....for ONLY 239,000 Dollars!

    Do you think he will let us scan it???

    Oh and by the way......if you look at some of the pics, you will see that there IS a curve on the pickups, as you can tell from the arch on the pickup rings....so it seems that that area is NOT flat, but arched....
    Close to flat then sanded round by the stroke sander we are thinking.

    Regarding the pickup rings of the refinish, I see that 2. but one side looks a little lower anyway. (group)
    keep on trucking!
    www.liquidguitars.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiquidGuitars View Post
    Close to flat then sanded round by the stroke sander we are thinking.

    Regarding the pickup rings of the refinish, I see that 2. but one side looks a little lower anyway. (group)
    yeah, you cant take the refin as a guide on the precise cure, cause its been stripped, resanded, etc. who knows how much its been altered.

    i think the general summary would be that 59's are flatTER then a modern LP at the bridge, but not totally flat like a prs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyborgCNC View Post
    Well, I am within driving distance of larkstreet music....

    http://www.larkstreetmusic.com/stock.html

    He has a '59 les paul....for ONLY 239,000 Dollars!

    Do you think he will let us scan it???

    Oh and by the way......if you look at some of the pics, you will see that there IS a curve on the pickups, as you can tell from the arch on the pickup rings....so it seems that that area is NOT flat, but arched....

    That guitar is up for sale again!!

    I wonder why people always decide to sell it.

    It would be nice to scann that but you would need a security van and armed escort to take it out the door.

    ihavenofish

    Which part of canada are you from??

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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    ihavenofish

    Which part of canada are you from??
    toronto

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    toronto
    Any where near pickering??

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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    Any where near pickering??
    pickering borders toronto on the east side. so its pretty far away

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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    pickering borders toronto on the east side. so its pretty far away
    Don't tell me you live on the lake shure??

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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    Don't tell me you live on the lake shure??
    i live downtown near the cn tower

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    Wink

    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    i live downtown near the cn tower
    Oh right near the harley and lambro garages

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    Quote Originally Posted by slpd View Post
    Oh right near the harley and lambro garages
    haha, yes, he used to be one of my clients. never gave me a free lambo though. i was very sad.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ihavenofish View Post
    haha, yes, he used to be one of my clients. never gave me a free lambo though. i was very sad.


    Any Gibson les paul reissues at steves music??

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