[Master_Arvist]

So I have been digging in the FB groups concerning the 1100M that was used at Battlebots. I have some info from first hand use and pictures! Faster spindle, enclosure changes, and possibly rigid tapping! See the attachments!

[79rallysport]

Cool. We need more specs.

I wonder when NYCCNC will get one.

[Master_Arvist]

Cool. We need more specs.

I wonder when NYCCNC will get one.

John probably has one in the back room lol. These changes will close the gap on a haas entry level mill and the Tormach feature wise. This will also widen the gap price wise as well.

[David C. Allen]

New M Pictures

https://www.facebook.com/Carnagerobotics/photos/pcb.2033764160279271/2033764100279277/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/Carnagerobo...type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/TeamIcewave...type=3&theater

[tmarks11]

rigid tapping, faster spindle, and an improved base with better coolant drainage. 'bout time.

some nice upgrades right there.

Wonder what the M" in "1100M" means?

[Dunc]

Hopefully not 1100MuchMoreMoney

[SCzEngrgGroup]

rigid tapping, faster spindle, and an improved base with better coolant drainage. 'bout time.

some nice upgrades right there.

Wonder what the M" in "1100M" means?

Of course, you coulda had a Novakon mill with all those features, plus 500 IPM rapids with AC servos, 4+ years ago...

Regards,
Ray L.

[Goemon]

John probably has one in the back room lol. These changes will close the gap on a haas entry level mill and the Tormach feature wise. This will also widen the gap price wise as well.

Didn't he already buy one of the Haas machines?

[Djstorm100]

I asked one of the tech's will the base mount to the current production 1100..sadly it won't with out modification...so that tells me the machine it self has changed as well.


I just bought my machine in Jan. Of this year....grrrr!

[cjtoombs]

i wonder if some of the features will be able to be retrofitted onto the older meachines, ala the series III upgrade. I would be interested in some of the freatures, but I definitely don't want to buy a new machine to get them.

[kstrauss]

1100M/770M/1100MX/770MX info is now at https://www.tormach.com/blog/introdu...mach-m-series/

Free shipping in the continental US but I don't see any prices.

[motoeng]

1100M/770M/1100MX/770MX info is now at https://www.tormach.com/blog/introdu...mach-m-series/

Free shipping in the continental US but I don't see any prices.

"With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M."

I wonder what those prices include though. If that's a bare bones setup, ouch.

[Advil]

Well, there's the servo spindle. And exactly what I was thinking based on power requirements. The 770 gets a 1.5HP servo. It says there's no direct retrofit for the existing Series 3, but there will be a servo motor upgrade package. If there's anything I'm interested in, it's that.

EDIT - Ok, misunderstood. Bummer. I guess only Servo axis.

I misread this part out of context and assumed they were talking about the spindle motor:

"With the major design changes moving to M and MX, we aren’t able to provide a direct upgrade path from Series 3, but there will be a servo upgrade for Series 3 machines available, if you’re looking to add some next-generation oomph to your older machine."

[Dunc]

"With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M."

I wonder what those prices include though. If that's a bare bones setup, ouch.

My guess is that it is for the mill, stand, and enclosure but no PDB or ATC. If the PDB is still $1.2K then a $20K mill is a bit much to handle. At least they mentioned the a la carte part so hopefully a bare mill is a lot closer in price to current.

[MABMachine]

My guess is that it is for the mill, stand, and enclosure but no PDB or ATC. If the PDB is still $1.2K then a $20K mill is a bit much to handle. At least they mentioned the a la carte part so hopefully a bare mill is a lot closer in price to current.

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With these new mills, you’ll be able to start cutting parts on the 770M for around $15,500 and $17,500 on the 1100M, with setups that include a power drawbar, and enclosure, basic tooling, and coolant.

[jttoner]

The Tormachs are basically bare bones or, as they like to put it, "a la carte."

[CL_MotoTech]

What the been the hangup on rigid tapping wtih the Tormach? I don't have one, though I have window shopped. Seems to me all you need is a spindle encoder.

[Spinnetti]

Sounds promising! I like the machine but I've held off buying another one because of the crappy stand/enclosure cobble job though I see it still has those crappy bellows way covers which I also detest. Too bad Mikini flamed out as many of the Tormach design flaws were addressed in their design.

[SCzEngrgGroup]

Too bad Mikini flamed out as many of the Tormach design flaws were addressed in their design.

...and replaced with FAR worse problems...

And someone please tell me the great value of rigid tapping? A T/C holder can do very nearly the same job, and is more than adequate for all but a few corner case applications (like tapping to the very bottom of a blind hole), and those few cases can be easily handled with thread milling, which gives you a LOT more flexibility, albeit at lower speed. I have a set of six home-made T/C heads I use for all my tapping.

Regards,
Ray L.

[Master_Arvist]

...and replaced with FAR worse problems...

And someone please tell me the great value of rigid tapping? A T/C holder can do very nearly the same job, and is more than adequate for all but a few corner case applications (like tapping to the very bottom of a blind hole), and those few cases can be easily handled with thread milling, which gives you a LOT more flexibility, albeit at lower speed. I have a set of six home-made T/C heads I use for all my tapping.

Regards,
Ray L.

I have been pondering this myself. If it’s a standard feature then it has value, but if they are charging an additional $500+ for the feature I’m going to pass. To me the Tormach is a good gateway machine to bigger things. It would be insane in my opinion to spend close to mini mill or TM-1P money on an upgraded Tormach. Time will tell though.

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The 1100M might have a lot of upgrades over my machine, but ya know what makes my 1100 Series II running Mach III a better machine than an 1100M?

MINE IS PAID FOR.

That’s awesome! No real reason to update!

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The biggest advantages to a servo drive motor for me would be larger slower drilling, larger slower tapping period rigid or not and slower feeds and speeds with large end mills. Handy for titanium or stainless. Not to mention being able to run a good sized arbor slitting saw at the proper stupidly slow RPM with plenty of torque.

I've idly perused a few catalogs of large servo motors that could replace my 770 drive... but if you already have a working machine it's a silly expense and a LOT of work.

Now on a bigger more rigid 1100... it's going to come down to cost.

I agree!