[Gautier]

Hello guys,

I have a Huanyang VFD 100v-110v and I need help for parameter settings.
I need to set it to be controlled by USB CNC controller board and connect to spindle.

The spindle is:
GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.



VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

I tried these settings before:

P0=0
P1=1
P2=1
P3=400
P4=400
P5=400
P8=150
P70=0
P72=400
P73=0
P141=150
P142=6A
P144=24000
P142=6

After putting these parameters, I don't know how to activate them because the VFD screen remain blinking (see picture)

After these parameters, I got others which are a bit similar to the first ones but the VFD screen remain blinking an on the picture:

PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)
PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD007=20
PD008=220 (120 If you have 120v VFD )
PD009=15
PD010=8
PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)
PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings
PD014 Acceleration=12 ( Adjust to suit)
PD015 Deceleration=12 (Adjust to suit)
( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )
PD142= ( Motor Max Amps)
PD142=( 220vSet for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )
PD142=( 220VSet for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp )
PD142=( 220v Set for your motor Amps Rating 800w Spindle 4 amps )
PD142=( 120v Set for your motor Amp Rating 800w Spindle 7 amp )
PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)
PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )
PD72=400
PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

So, I realy need help to set up this VFD.

Thank you in advance

[mactec54]

Hello guys,

I have a Huanyang VFD 100v-110v and I need help for parameter settings.
I need to set it to be controlled by USB CNC controller board and connect to spindle.

The spindle is:
GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.



VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

I tried these settings before:

P0=0
P1=1
P2=1
P3=400
P4=400
P5=400
P8=150
P70=0
P72=400
P73=0
P141=150
P142=6A
P144=24000
P142=6

After putting these parameters, I don't know how to activate them because the VFD screen remain blinking (see picture)

After these parameters, I got others which are a bit similar to the first ones but the VFD screen remain blinking an on the picture:

PD000=0 for Parameter unlock ( 1 ) for Parameter Lock
PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)
PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD007=20
PD008=220 (120 If you have 120v VFD )
PD009=15
PD010=8
PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting with Quality VFD, 120 is Safe)
PD13= 08 is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings
PD014 Acceleration=12 ( Adjust to suit)
PD015 Deceleration=12 (Adjust to suit)
( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)
PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage ) (120 for VFD Rated for 120v )
PD142= ( Motor Max Amps)
PD142=( 220vSet for your motor Amp Rating 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )
PD142=( 220VSet for your motor Amp Rating 1.5Kw Spindle 7 amp )
PD142=( 220v Set for your motor Amps Rating 800w Spindle 4 amps )
PD142=( 120v Set for your motor Amp Rating 800w Spindle 7 amp )
PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)
PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) =3,000= (24,000)
PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )
PD72=400
PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

So, I realy need help to set up this VFD.

Thank you in advance

What does your parameters start with you have 2 that are different are they PD or something else, you have to use the correct parameters for the VFD that you have, how do you have it wired

[Gautier]

My parameters start with Pd. For example Pd001.

VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

The spindle is:
GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.

Attached is the wiring diagram picture and picture of VFD's state (blinking screen) after putting the parameters. I verified several times and the wiring is fine.

I followed some videos on youtube concerning Huanyang VFD and found that after setting parameters the user need to hit the "RUN" button and the screen stops blinking; but for me it doesn't stop blinking, it remains blinking even if I hit the RUN button.

I realy need help to configure this VFD.

[automationtechinc]

Pls email to us, we will help you to set up

We have this VFD in stock we can simulate it

https://www.automationtechnologiesin...e/cnc-spindle/

https://www.automationtechnologiesin...ooled-spindle/

[mactec54]

My parameters start with Pd. For example Pd001.

VFD MODEL: HY01D511B, 110V-110V, 1.5KW, 14A

The spindle is:
GDZ-15, Diameter 65mm, H160mm, 400Hz, 24000 rpm, 800w, 6A, 150V.

Attached is the wiring diagram picture and picture of VFD's state (blinking screen) after putting the parameters. I verified several times and the wiring is fine.

I followed some videos on youtube concerning Huanyang VFD and found that after setting parameters the user need to hit the "RUN" button and the screen stops blinking; but for me it doesn't stop blinking, it remains blinking even if I hit the RUN button.

I realy need help to configure this VFD.

Using the internet can get you into trouble most show you incorrect settings, turn it off wait about 1min and turn it on again press the stop button/reset if this does not work for you, on some of these HY drives you can remove the Key Pad and then replace it if this does not fix the problem contact the seller as you have a faulty drive

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[Gautier]

Hello guys,

I thank you for your help. Especially "Automationtechnic". Now I am able to run the spindle using the VFD's panel control. Now I need to run it using the USB CNC controller card (see picture). As Automationtechnic told me that they are not familiar to USB CNC controller board, I still need help in order to control the VFD through USB CNC controller:

1. How to connect the VFD and USB CNC? and the position of jumpers on USB CNC board; or if the attached picture is correct?
2. Which VFD parameters to change?
3. Do I need to change the VFD's jumper from VR to VI position?
4. Which settings to make inside the Planet USB CNC software in order to control the VFD?

These are the parameters which are working now but using the VFD's panel (from automationtechinc):

PD001 = 0
PD002 = 0
PD005 = 400
PD004 = 400
PD003 = 400
PD141 = 110 or 220V ( check the spindle rate)
PD142 = 11.0 or 5A
PD144 = 2800
PD008 =110
PD013=1
PD072=400

Attached is the board

Thank you in advance

[ACERO1]

Good day I have purchased this "2.2KW Water Cooled Spindle Motor ER20 24000rpm 400Hz+2.2KW VFD Inverter Variable Frequency Driver 110V" and parameters Pd 003 Pd 004 Pd 005 Will not change from 50.. can someone help pls

thanks

[mactec54]

Good day I have purchased this "2.2KW Water Cooled Spindle Motor ER20 24000rpm 400Hz+2.2KW VFD Inverter Variable Frequency Driver 110V" and parameters Pd 003 Pd 004 Pd 005 Will not change from 50.. can someone help pls

thanks

Who would buy a 2.2Kw to run on 120v single phase supply ???

Have you checked the Parameter Lock

PD000=0 needs to be zero or this will lock the Parameter Settings

[XYZGnomon]

WTF is 110V 3-Phase?

I am trying to wrap my head around how Huanyang labels their VFDs and motors. Other brands of VFD either accept a 115V/1PH input or don't, but always output 230V/3PH. What is different about Huanyang?

Let's say I have this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CPRKB3S

I would expect to be able to run it with this: https://www.cnc4pc.com/1-5kw-vfd-spindle-inverter.html or this: https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Freq.../dp/B0775QGLVJ

But their labeling suggests otherwise. Again, WTF is 110V/3PH? And how is it different from 230V/3PH?

TO MAKE THINGS EVEN WEIRDER...

Someone asked this exact question on Amazon, and Huanyang replied "you need our voltage-up series products" and then posted a dead link. See it for yourself: https://www.amazon.com/ask/questions...k_ql_ql_al_hza

Does Huanyang sell these things or not?

TO MAKE THIS CLEARER THAN MUD...

Here is a thread on Practical Machinist where they go over what this all means, and they get absolutely nowhere: https://www.practicalmachinist.com/v...estion-248756/

The OP was confused about the labeling, and the thread predictably goes to "buy American", and then the OP learns that 110V is really just 220V and that he's going to run an extension cord. We did not learn if his 110V input will result in a VFD output of 220V, only that it also accepts 220V.

[mactec54]

WTF is 110V 3-Phase?

I am trying to wrap my head around how Huanyang labels their VFDs and motors. Other brands of VFD either accept a 115V/1PH input or don't, but always output 230V/3PH. What is different about Huanyang?

Let's say I have this: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09CPRKB3S

I would expect to be able to run it with this: https://www.cnc4pc.com/1-5kw-vfd-spindle-inverter.html or this: https://www.amazon.com/Variable-Freq.../dp/B0775QGLVJ

But their labeling suggests otherwise. Again, WTF is 110V/3PH? And how is it different from 230V/3PH?

In the real world there is no such thing the Chinese manufacture such a thing, that is ok up to 1.5Kw spindles but the 2.2Kw is junk and nobody should buy one most don't know and fall for it because they only have 120v power supply, even the 1.5Kw will not get max performance using 120v NA Single Phase supply

A standard VFD Drive if you where to use 120v Single Phase Input supply you get the same out 120v 3 Phase

The VFD Drives that can take 120v ( which is very few ) have a step-up transformer inside the drive to go from 120v to 240v this is still very limited in performance there is just not enough current available in a 120v circuit for a VFD Drive to perform how it should

[StrawberryBoi]

What they are trying to get across is that if you have 1ph going to 3ph of the same voltage, then you must supply sqrt(3) times the 3ph current, on the 1ph input.

So roughly 1.732Amps 1ph per every 1Amp 3ph.

Additionally the voltage is a linear scale when the phase count does not change.

1Amp@220v3ph = 2Amp@110V3ph = ~3.5Amp@110V1ph

Does 110V 3ph exist? Not as a standard afaik, but any arbitrary voltage can be achieved. A 3ph motor rated for inverter duty operation at 110v would be a 110v 3ph system. These do exist, if not as standard items.

All kinds of arbitrary voltages are in use for motors depending on various application limits, but typically 5-48VDC (3.5-40VAC at the motor) and 220-430VAC are going to cover most standard 3ph motors.

[StrawberryBoi]

Impractical is really the word. I've design 100kW 48VDC systems, useless just means your wiring is not sufficient.

Impractical and not swappable to other installations is definitely true, best not to try and push standard home voltages outside of proscribed power levels even though it's totally feasible, because you make a weird unique situation that's only applicable to the one installation setup.

[StrawberryBoi]

Why can't he use an underrated VFD? The current is always limited by the VFD and not the motor, excepting short circuit and step response currents.

As long as he doesn't actually program the VFD somehow to go over it's capacity, it is the limiter, assuming the load motor is rated at or above the VFD output voltage.

It's the reverse, running an overrated VFD on an underrated motor and then trying to push the motor well outside it's rating that will cause failures.

The one caveat is if the lower rated motor induction is far too low or too high, which is very unlikely unless it's a PMAC servo device.

[XYZGnomon]

Why can't he use an underrated VFD? The current is always limited by the VFD and not the motor, excepting short circuit and step response currents.

As long as he doesn't actually program the VFD somehow to go over it's capacity, it is the limiter, assuming the load motor is rated at or above the VFD output voltage.

It's the reverse, running an overrated VFD on an underrated motor and then trying to push the motor well outside it's rating that will cause failures.

The one caveat is if the lower rated motor induction is far too low or too high, which is very unlikely unless it's a PMAC servo device.

Thanks for taking my side! ER20 is simply not negotiable, and I have no plans to mill depleted uranium or any other materials that don't belong on a router made of extruded aluminum anyway. I doubt I will ever draw much more current than if I used a Makita or some other trim router, but one thing I will have is my hearing intact! As a two-for, there's also much lower runout and vibration. Everybody wins!

This is it, BTW, right after unpacking it:

[mactec54]

Thanks for taking my side! ER20 is simply not negotiable, and I have no plans to mill depleted uranium or any other materials that don't belong on a router made of extruded aluminum anyway. I doubt I will ever draw much more current than if I used a Makita or some other trim router, but one thing I will have is my hearing intact! As a two-for, there's also much lower runout and vibration. Everybody wins!

This is it, BTW, right after unpacking it:

So little by little you post what this is all about you have a 1.5Kw 300Hz 6.5A 220v spindle

So your 120v single phase supply needs to be greater than 22.49A , 25A would be the minimum to run this spindle at it's rated amps so with the right VFD Drive and the correct Parameters set you could be running with your 20A supply but expect it to trip some times, many have been down this same route before you, so there is nothing out of the ordinary about what you are wanting to do

[mactec54]

Why can't he use an underrated VFD? The current is always limited by the VFD and not the motor, excepting short circuit and step response currents.

As long as he doesn't actually program the VFD somehow to go over it's capacity, it is the limiter, assuming the load motor is rated at or above the VFD output voltage.

It's the reverse, running an overrated VFD on an underrated motor and then trying to push the motor well outside it's rating that will cause failures.

The one caveat is if the lower rated motor induction is far too low or too high, which is very unlikely unless it's a PMAC servo device.

I guess you should know what you are talking about but this is not the case with an install like this, you will fry one or the other or both if you don't get the right VFD Drive that can handle the single phase input and the spindle needs to have a lower rating than the VFD Drive

An under size VFD Drive will fail, no matter what your Tec tells you or you think should work, this is all about single Phase supply to a 3 Ph VFD, the simplest of Math tells you it has to have a higher rating than the spindle 1.73 times plus a safety factor

The discussion is about a regular 2 Pole 18000 300Hz 6.5A 220v Ac motor

A snippet of what is required to run a motor like this on single phase, if the VFD Drive does not have the required Input Amps required then it will fry, it usually take around 5s to 30s and it is done

[StrawberryBoi]

This is assuming he runs it at full current though. The VFD only knows about the motor what you tell it. A motor with identical reactance can be 500W or 500kW. There is no way for it to tell itself to go harder than it's own rating.

Honestly, I'd really just like to understand how the VFD will damage itself. The VFD is doing the work of managing the phase outputs.

The usual drive failure cases are from overvoltage due to back driving the motor beyond the drive ability to handle, modifying drive parameters to operate out of it's hardware limits (which is bad design on the drive software, but I'd totally buy that being a real issue), and/or faulty control by the VFD. Other than the backdriving case, there are almost no cases where motors will damage a drive that is operating under control.

Power ratings and current ratings on these devices are semi-arbitrary and not intrinsic. The case for an overrated motor damaging a drive just makes no sense to me, please help me understand.

[mactec54]

This is assuming he runs it at full current though. The VFD only knows about the motor what you tell it. A motor with identical reactance can be 500W or 500kW. There is no way for it to tell itself to go harder than it's own rating.

Honestly, I'd really just like to understand how the VFD will damage itself. The VFD is doing the work of managing the phase outputs.

The usual drive failure cases are from overvoltage due to back driving the motor beyond the drive ability to handle, modifying drive parameters to operate out of it's hardware limits (which is bad design on the drive software, but I'd totally buy that being a real issue), and/or faulty control by the VFD. Other than the backdriving case, there are almost no cases where motors will damage a drive that is operating under control.

Power ratings and current ratings on these devices are semi-arbitrary and not intrinsic. The case for an overrated motor damaging a drive just makes no sense to me, please help me understand.

Keep dreaming it does not work like that and of all people you should know better, what happens when the motor is stalled which will happen, the result will be smoke I guarantee

There have been many failures on here just reading post like this, put your name to it, they will fail if they listen / read take your advice

[StrawberryBoi]

Yes, otherwise you will be running your spindle at much lower than it's rated capacity and just wasting that spindle, but not tripping the circuit.

[mactec54]

Yes, otherwise you will be running your spindle at much lower than it's rated capacity and just wasting that spindle, but not tripping the circuit.

It will still trip it, with the 20A supply