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  1. #541
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    The brygga 2x3 desk top router breaking in.

    400 ipm X and Y, 300 ipm Z, 20 acceleration:
    https://youtu.be/k4YDFBgFRg4

  2. #542
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    THK are one of the high end high quality Ballscrews if you are looking at THK then NSK SKF and Bosch there are many other Ballscrew manufacturer's that make quality Ballscrews to choose from, TBI is another that is less cost and good quality worth a look at
    Thank you very much for the info mactec I appreciate it.

    Dan

  3. #543
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    Under side of machine bed with HDPE parts installed:
    Attachment 411280

    Attachment 411282

    Top of machine bed with the 1" HDPE table with clamp slots:
    Attachment 411284
    @DavidA, where did you source your HDPE from and did it come pre-cut in that shape?

    Adam,
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  4. #544
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by adam_m View Post
    @DavidA, where did you source your HDPE from and did it come pre-cut in that shape?
    Most plastic distributors should have HDPE. McMaster-Carr carries them as well.
    Up to 4" thick. They come in sheets, just like plywood. You machine the shape you want.

  5. #545
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    im still thinking to use hdpe or acrylic for my spoilboard

  6. #546
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by teamloks1 View Post
    im still thinking to use hdpe or acrylic for my spoilboard
    I don't have much experience with acrylic but would
    think that it wouldn't be too suited for spoil board usage.

    It's stiff and brittle, would probably crack when you drive
    a screw into it and would melt with a duller bit when you
    cut through a material you have on it.

    I do have quite a bit of experience with HDPE and think that it
    is pretty close to being the perfect material for a spoil board.

    It rarely melts on even a dull bit as it is fairly easy to cut (68D),
    holds screws very well, is extremely resilient (try to rip a milk jug),
    holds its shape even over time (negligible cold creep), doesn't
    swell or shrink with moisture, is impervious to just about any
    chemical including oils, coolant and water and doesn't create
    any fuzzies or dust as a wooden spoil board will.

    I think the reason that it is not used more often is because
    most metal guys don't know much about it and the fact that
    it costs about 6-7 times more than a sheet of MDF.

  7. #547
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quick question:

    UCCNC seems to run Mach 2/3 Arc.txt files just fine.

    Is that the post processor mode to use or are there more optimized post processors for UCCNC?

    Thank you

  8. #548
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    Quick question:

    UCCNC seems to run Mach 2/3 Arc.txt files just fine.

    Is that the post processor mode to use or are there more optimized post processors for UCCNC?

    Thank you

    If it works and does what you need no need to change it
    It should run any Mach3 programs just the same G-Code is a standard so if it is formatted correctly it will run on most controls,
    Mactec54

  9. #549
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    Quick question:

    UCCNC seems to run Mach 2/3 Arc.txt files just fine.

    Is that the post processor mode to use or are there more optimized post processors for UCCNC?

    Thank you
    Unless you want it to do something different, a UCCNC post would be almost exactly the same.
    Gerry

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Thank you Mactec and Ger,

    Yes, it runs fine with the Mac2/3 code.

  11. #551
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Brygga desktop is getting close to test cuts.

    First, the machine has been modified so that
    the ball screws are fixed only at one end and
    the other end is floating.

    For Y/A, one clamp side has been modified
    to have a rubber bushing for the floating end:
    Attachment 419282

    For X axis, one of the Y/A carriages had to be
    taken out. For that, I used a car jack to unload
    the weight of the gantry:
    Attachment 419284

    Carriage slid out easily:
    Attachment 419286

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    A seat for the rubber bushing was machined into the carriage:
    Attachment 419290

    I don't know of any additional improvements but
    with one ball screw end floating, the machine
    seems to run a bit smoother and quieter.

    All these modifications have been incorporated
    into the master file for future cuts.

  13. #553
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    BB ply spoil board installed:
    Attachment 419298

    Big front braces installed:
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    There will be two clear screens on the machine.

    They are not mandatory for function but improve
    the dust collection and coolant retention.
    Attachment 419302

    They simply slide in and out with the grooves of
    the plastic trim around the machine:
    Attachment 419304

    Attachment 419306

    The back screen can be left in place as you will
    never get there. The front one will be taken out
    for loading/unloading or just not be used if no need.

    The back screen placed in:
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  15. #555
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Dust collection installed.

    Machine ready for spoil board resurfacing:
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  16. #556
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    .

    = = = = WANTED = = = =

    I will run test cuts for wood, plastics and aluminum.

    However, so far, I've cut mainly plastics and aluminum.
    I have Aspire but never did any 2.5D or 3D carving and
    have no knowledge whatsoever about it.

    If there is somebody with a 3D carving file and wants
    to see how the machine performs with 3D carving, I will
    gladly try to run it as I am curious myself. The file should
    have all tool paths and tool types listed so I can get
    those bits and set up the machine accordingly.

    Thank you.

    = = = = WANTED = = = =

  17. #557
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    Ok that's good it is a HY here are the Parameter's for you, you now know how to set them also you just use the arrow keys to get to the Parameter number, this should get you going

    Huanyang Mactec54
    2.2Kw 220v 400Hz Water Cooled

    PD000=0 ( 0 For Parameter unlock ) ( 1 For Locked )

    PD001=0 (1 For Remote Control)

    PD002=0 ( 1 For 0-10v Terminal Control or Remote Trim Pot Control )
    ( J1 Also Needs to be set for Remote Terminal Control 1-2 jumper connection )

    PD003=400

    PD004=400

    PD005=400

    PD006=200

    PD007=20

    PD008=220 (Motor Rated Voltage )

    PD009=110

    PD010=11

    PD011=120 ( 100 Minimum Setting )

    PD13= 08 (is for Factory reset, Only use this to set VFD to Factory Default Settings )

    PD014=8 ( Acceleration Adjust to suit)

    PD015=8 ( Deceleration Adjust to suit)
    ( PD15 is ignored IF PD26=1 Then the Spindle will Coast to a Stop)

    PD023=0 ( Forward Run Only )

    PD041=8 ( Carrier Frequency up to 10 Max for these Spindle motors)

    PD120=120 ( Stall Prevention )

    PD141=220 ( Motor Rated Voltage )

    PD142=9 ( Motor Max Amps 2.2Kw Spindle 9 amp )

    PD143=2 ( Motor Number of Poles)

    PD144=3000 (Max Motor RPM) 3,000= (24,000)

    PD70=0 ( This may need to be set to 1 if Control Voltage is 0-5v )

    PD72=400

    PD73=120 ( 100 Minimum RPM Setting )

    PD174= ??? ( To Be Set to the VFD Drives Max Rated Output Amps )
    Hi Mactec,

    I setup the VFD as called out above. Everything
    seems to work fine but I have two questions:

    PD174=??? Where do I find the max. Amps? It is not on the VFD.

    When I run the spindle, it goes directly to 400 (24,000 rpm).
    The up/down arrows run it down very slowly.

    Is it possible to start the spindle with a lower speed like 16k or 18k
    and adjust up/down from there?

  18. #558
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    Hi Mactec,

    I setup the VFD as called out above. Everything
    seems to work fine but I have two questions:

    PD174=??? Where do I find the max. Amps? It is not on the VFD.

    When I run the spindle, it goes directly to 400 (24,000 rpm).
    The up/down arrows run it down very slowly.

    Is it possible to start the spindle with a lower speed like 16k or 18k
    and adjust up/down from there?
    When I set up my Hitachi I only needed to change 4 or 5 perimeters and they were all listed in the documentation (two manuals) . Not hard at all to figure out, the rest were left as default.
    Retired Master Electrician, HVAC/R Commercial. FLA Saturn 2 4x4 CNC Router Mach4 Kimber 1911 45ACP

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Thank you for the input, wmgeorge.

    Unfortunately, I have a HuanYang VFD, not a Hitachi and
    the documentation on that is quite vague and I don't know
    much about VFD setups to start with. So I thought, I ask.

    Does yours start up at full speed? I prefer that the spindle
    starts at around 16-18k and I can go up or down from there.

    I also would like to know if there is a way to adjust the speed
    faster than scrolling from the 1/100th digit. Maybe a pot might
    be a better way to do it.

  20. #560
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    PD174=??? Where do I find the max. Amps? It is not on the VFD.
    Might be in the manual. I think it's either 10 or 11.

    You should be able to set the frequency before you start it. I don't recall if it remembers the previous setting or not?

    There's a plugin for UCCNC that works well, if you want to control it from the software.
    Gerry

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    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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