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  1. #421
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by OlfCNC View Post
    I have no idea why your axis not running. I have no experience with those servos unfortunately.
    Hi OlfCNC, appreciate the hotkey guidance.

    When I click on one of the jog buttons on the screen, the page behind it changes color, turning gray.
    Don't know if that means something.

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by peteeng View Post
    To get around this adhesives are now used in joints to improve the connection grip vs friction eg loctite or epoxy.
    Hey Peter. I think adhesives is a great idea, thank you. Particularly considering that the finish on my parts is certainly nowhere even close to the level of perfection that you are used to.

  3. #423
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    .

    I NEED HELP!

    All axes individually work fine when connected to
    ClearPath software but nothing moves with UCCNC.

    Have been combing through the manuals for
    CNC4PC's C11G BoB, UCCNC and UC100 all weekend.

    UC100 and C11G powered on.:
    Attachment 416000
    Check that you are in the right mode in the ClearPath software Position mode

    Check that you don't have the override checked in there software, this needs to be unchecked

    The motors should be locked when you power up if not they are not getting the signal / power to turn on

    You can check the output of the Breakout Board with a meter to see if you are outputting a signal when you make a move or jog an axes
    Mactec54

  4. #424
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    You know it all works because you ran with the Clearpath software. Its just getting the UCCNC controller to output the step and direction commands correctly. Its got to be something simple. In Mach3/4 the configuration of the Ports and Pins is very important to get right, what you need is someone else's set up file to look at, because those should be more or less standard. Getting the steps right is more of calibration process. You just need to see it run.

    BTW I purchased a low cost, about $120 or less hand held oscilloscope. I had to relearn how to use it from maybe 40 years ago but it really helped a lot.
    Retired Master Electrician, HVAC/R Commercial. FLA Saturn 2 4x4 CNC Router Mach4 Kimber 1911 45ACP

  5. #425
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Thanks Mactec54, will do.

    I am confused. Is the ClearPath software still active when I run UCCNC?

    I thought you run the ClearPath software just to create a motor profile?

  6. #426
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Thank you wmgeorge, I hope it is something simple; just a 'duh' thing.

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Override in ClearPath software is OFF:
    Attachment 416042

    The motors are locked up.

  8. #428
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    Override in ClearPath software is OFF:
    Attachment 416042

    The motors are locked up.
    That's good looking at what you just posted they are off as well so that part should be all good

    The Breakout Board has red lights they need to be green for operational

    Do you have the 5v board power correctly connected

    Do you have the EStop connected
    Mactec54

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    There was one trace wrong on the wing
    pcb boards. Made a new board.

    The machine is jogging!

    Also, the inside adjustment screws for
    the nut retainer were difficult to adjust:
    Attachment 416430

    I will be cutting new revised mounting
    plates and ball nut retainers for the machine.

    Should be ready in a few days.

  10. #430
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Thanks for posting. I was missing my David A's thread fix.

  11. #431
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    You're too kind...

  12. #432
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by Arjay View Post
    Thanks for posting. I was missing my David A's thread fix.
    Me too. Can't wait to see a final product!!

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC


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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Finally got to start with cutting the new
    servo mounts and associated parts.
    Should be ready soon for replacement:

    https://youtu.be/gEFO-YJ-2JQ

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    As mentioned, the machine is a prototype for trying out
    different designs and revising/improving as necessary.

    Among the many inputs submitted here, two kept me
    thinking in particular.

    One was MacTec54's suggestion of a different approach
    for the ball nut retainer installation. He was kind enough to
    provide me with sample designs for alternate layouts of the
    retainer. The new layout is integrating some of his suggestions.

    The other comment came from Ger21 about possible whipping
    of ball screws even if they are fixed. Although my screws do
    not whip, I thought I might try to consider this while redesigning.

    The new layout required recutting of 17 new pieces:
    Attachment 416846

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    I was also finally able to locate sealed
    angular contact bearings in my size:
    Click image for larger version. 

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  17. #437
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by davida1234 View Post
    As mentioned, the machine is a prototype for trying out
    different designs and revising/improving as necessary.

    Among the many inputs submitted here, two kept me
    thinking in particular.

    One was MacTec54's suggestion of a different approach
    for the ball nut retainer installation. He was kind enough to
    provide me with sample designs for alternate layouts of the
    retainer. The new layout is integrating some of his suggestions.

    The other comment came from Ger21 about possible whipping
    of ball screws even if they are fixed. Although my screws do
    not whip, I thought I might try to consider this while redesigning.

    The new layout required recutting of 17 new pieces:
    Attachment 416846
    I did not take any notice of the comment of screw whip,The only way you could have screw movement is if the screw was bent and even then it can't whip, the reason the screw can't whip is the linear Rail would also have to whip / move as well which is imposable for that to happen, the linear rail is fixed and you Ball Nut is guided by the linear rail
    Mactec54

  18. #438
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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Parts for one Rotating Ball Nut Drive.

    1 x Power Ball Nut Set
    1 x Mounting Plate
    1 x Bearing Retainer
    2 x Sealed Angular Contact Ball Bearings
    3 x Threaded Standoffs

    Click image for larger version. 

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    Quote Originally Posted by mactec54 View Post
    I did not take any notice of the comment of screw whip,The only way you could have screw movement is if the screw was bent and even then it can't whip, the reason the screw can't whip is the linear Rail would also have to whip / move as well which is imposable for that to happen, the linear rail is fixed and you Ball Nut is guided by the linear rail
    That's true and logical and my screws don't whip at
    all as you can see in the videos.

    However, he did mention it in the thread and after
    thinking about it, it could be possible that the screw
    might exhibit harmonic oscillations at the long side.

    This is a 2x3 and I want to be able to expand this to at
    least a 4x4 and I wanted to have a solution for that.

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    Re: David A's New 2x3 Bench Top CNC

    To assemble, press in the bearings:
    Attachment 416858

    Install standoff's:
    Attachment 416860

    Click image for larger version. 

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