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  1. #1
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    New shopsabre

    I Just received my new shopsabre 4896 with tool changer ,4th axis and digitizer.Very good quality ! Same components as machines costing much more.Come with columbo spindle Mitsubishi 7.5 hp motor and ac digital servos THK rails Ball screws. I'm very pleased with the service and the product !
    Ben

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    Advise On Shop Sabre

    Could You Please Help Me With Your Opinion On Your Shop Sabre Up To Now

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    Quote Originally Posted by JAIME ZAZUETA View Post
    Could You Please Help Me With Your Opinion On Your Shop Sabre Up To Now
    Hello , Sure what would you like to know.Mike Seegar was my salesperson.He's great to work with,A no pressure kind of guy thaqt tells you about the machine ,but takes the high road when it come to talking about the competition.I can't stand a salesmen who automatically starts trashing his competition.T
    There are alot of good router manufacturers out there.It just a matter of who is going to give the top of the line components at the best price.In my case I did not really look at rack and pinion machines because I knew I wanted ballscrews.If you have any specific questions I'll be glad to answer.
    Thanks,
    Ben

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    Have you digitized anything yet? If so, how'd it go. Seems like it would take forever. Considering how many points you'd need to map out an object.

    Just curious,
    Todd
    http://www.innovative-accents.com

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    Yes,I did digitize some pistol grips,Yes,they have the probe set for a very slow rate.I use the basically the same probe on a little carvewright machine they run it at about 600 ipm,The shopsabre will cut at those speeds easy, I'm not sure why win cnc wants to run the digitizer so slow.But the either way it still slow... you just set it up when nothing else is going on and leave it.
    Ben

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    Was the pistol grip "checkered". If so, how'd those little squares come out. Or is that to small for the probe to read? I don't know that I'd ever need one. But the concept is intriguing. Besides if it's slow I'd go crazy watching that. Not that I'm a "hack" I'm just impatient. Nothing worse than watching your machine cut air.

    Thanks for the info,
    Todd

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    Quote Originally Posted by todd71 View Post
    Have you digitized anything yet? If so, how'd it go. Seems like it would take forever. Considering how many points you'd need to map out an object.

    Just curious,
    Todd
    http://www.innovative-accents.com
    Todd,Looked at your website,you have some very nice patterns on there,I may ask you for some pointers,what software do you design with?
    Thanks,
    Ben

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    I use ArtCAM. It took sometime to get used to it. Most of the patterns are either reliefs from gray scale images, manipulated in Photo shop, or vectors with various shapes applied to them. I work with designers that give me a rough idea of what they want and I go from there. It takes some trial and error to nail it. I bill by the hour so they can make all the changes they want.:argue: It was a slow start but now I'm running 7days a week and we still can't keep up. My only advise would be "push it to the limit". People will pay more, if they are getting more. You just have to give them the option. Oh yeah, 1/4 scale samples will save you tons of time and material. It may even seal the deal. Just landed a bid for 550 wall panels for 25 franchise restaurants based on 1/4 scale models. It's out there you just have to find it.:banana:

    Todd

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    Hi ben I should see My 4896 SS 5hp 5atc in a week or so. I can't wait to get it. I had a question for tim. Art cam how much is it. I can't seem to find a price anywhere. I have Rhino and vcarve to start I would really like Enroute Pro but it is 6 grand.

    I want to do wood grained textures on signs to look like it was a sand blasted sign. Vcarve though good and easy to use I don't think it can do it. I use the texture profile and only can draw stuff that looks like stones. its cool but not all I want out of my work. I know enroute will do everything but is pricey. later

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    Quote Originally Posted by KustomKoncepts View Post
    I had a question for tim. Art cam how much is it. I can't seem to find a price anywhere.
    $7K+
    Gerry

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    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

    (Note: The opinions expressed in this post are my own and are not necessarily those of CNCzone and its management)

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    Quote Originally Posted by KustomKoncepts View Post
    I want to do wood grained textures on signs to look like it was a sand blasted sign.
    I'm guessing you won't be using real wood? Because it would probably be a lot cheaper and faster to actually sandblast it, rather than cnc it.
    Gerry

    UCCNC 2017 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2017.html

    Mach3 2010 Screenset
    http://www.thecncwoodworker.com/2010.html

    JointCAM - CNC Dovetails & Box Joints
    http://www.g-forcecnc.com/jointcam.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by KustomKoncepts View Post
    Hi ben I should see My 4896 SS 5hp 5atc in a week or so. I can't wait to get it. I had a question for tim. Art cam how much is it. I can't seem to find a price anywhere. I have Rhino and vcarve to start I would really like Enroute Pro but it is 6 grand.

    I want to do wood grained textures on signs to look like it was a sand blasted sign. Vcarve though good and easy to use I don't think it can do it. I use the texture profile and only can draw stuff that looks like stones. its cool but not all I want out of my work. I know enroute will do everything but is pricey. later
    Hello, yes artcam is 7,500 for the pro version. They also have some cheaper versions with less functions and enroute pro is 5995.00 I believe.
    Ben

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    I quess I will save up for Enroute.

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    I will have to live with v carve for now to get started. I have had to make 2 $900.00 payments on my Shop Sabre and still don't have the machine. How many weeks or months did it take from your down payment to at your door? Ben

    Gerry I wanted a cnc for the same reason as my plotter and digital printer cutter... Repeatability and accuracy. I can repeat 2 million times the same thing, decal, bumper sticker or cnc sign. I want to be able to pull up a file in 5 years and cut the same sign. That is why I want a wood grain look to cnc also in sign foam it is hard to get a wood grain look because there is no grain in HDU foam so the cnc is needed to make it look like that.

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    Hello, from the time they got my deposit it was right at 6 or 61/2 weeks, pretty much the time Mike ,my salesman said it would take. You will want to borrow an engine hoist to install the gantry and you will still need 2 people to line her up and put the bolts in.There is just the legs to bolt on and the gantry and two braces and 2 air lines if you got the air balancer and that's it.About 2-3 hours taking your time.Use a nylon strap or big rope around the gantry, less chance of damage that if you use a chain.
    Ben

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    kustom

    actually ger is right, sand blasting removes the softwood at a different rate and depth as the hardwood. the woodgrain look in sign foam is achieved with a mask or wire type overlay and blasted i've seen it and cam probably find it.

    to "carve" a woodgrain in sign foam would take a long time with the shear volume of code change involved as it, or atleast i have yet to see it carve in linear grain fashion

    time wise sand blasting is far better jim

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    so kustom just how cold is it??

    jim
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    Quote Originally Posted by cabnet636 View Post
    so kustom just how cold is it??

    jim

    its been cold even for a ND native. since december 1st we had only 1 day that was 14 and all others have been below zero.

    last week we hit -30 and -40 today heat wave 21 !!!!!!!!!!

    I'm going to go snowmobiling now before it was a little cold to go 100MPH at -30 the wind chill can reach -120 at those speeds.

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