[adamfromUK]

HI


OH Dear!


Luckily im just setting up, praticing and learning CNC


Ive gotten so far but im stuck on this


Highlighted in Pink was my 4th Pass using ASPIRE Then to G Code using Mach 3

The 4th Pass went well off to the Left! and ruined my test peace!

The 1,2 and 3rd passes all went okay highlighted in black


Does any one know why the 4th pass decided to start off at a different position?


many thanks, and appreciate any help given


adam

[adamfromUK]

oh man

Never had so much hassel attaching an image to a forum (chair)

[adamfromUK]

Thanks one again guys, very much appreciated

Okay a good update!

I made the internal cabinet tidy

I recall someone saying once that the Chinese controllers via USB can be temprimental and always better with CAT Style plug or the older style big parrell plugs

So after i did that i made a new G Gode and sent that to the machne

It cut it perfectly on 2 x passes

But

It was using Softcore board!

So im not 100% but maybe its one of these three things!

1: Dodgy interference via USB Cable but it is a sheilded cable im using! Interference from another source, or simply its cause its a USB out from controller to the PC

2: The motors struggle on the 3rd pass on thicker wood! will require further testing though

3: G Code issue?

im still thinking 1,2 is the culprit

The binding seems to happen and puts it off course, but this new cut was 100% but thats after i moved the NVUM controller to the rear of the enclosure and checked all the cables etc and it was only cutting softcore board not thicker dense ply


Will update guys!

the new okay cut!

[difalkner]

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[adamfromUK]

attached is the image!!


thanks too difalkner

[CNCMAN172]

I would run the program again this time doing an air cut, no wood or anything. Single step the program and put a piece of paper on your machine and mark where the cutter moves. When u get to the forth pass you should see it move the machine in the wrong position. You can also run the gcode on a simulator which you can download for free and determine if the gcode is correct

Russ

[adamfromUK]

Thanks Russ(wedge)


But running it again doesnt answer why it did this

Anyone else have any ideas please?

I will try some new G Codes etc

But it would be handy too see why it did it in the first place

adam

[adamfromUK]

Well this morning i made a quick sign and was very happy it done okay on two passes:
DSC00185.jpg

However on my second cut this afternoon it went haywire again lol


So not sure is it my G Code? or is it Interference? or is it dodgy nema 23 not having the stregth to pull over the wood, i think not as it seems to

Just go way off what i want it to do!

so what you guys rekon?

Is it my dodgy G Code? maybe im saving it wrong ??? as there is a lot off different options to save as?

Or is it interference? bad connection etc

Screenshot 2021-05-22 170828.jpg

what it looks like on aspre

what it looks like when it was cutting


DSC00186.jpg

[Dean448]

I would assume that the problem isn’t coming from Aspire. You can simulate the cut in Aspire.
Two things would cause this from the machine. Stepper looses steps or stepper shaft not tight.
Why those aren’t issues is they happen under load not between passes.
So my guess is that Aspire is sending some code that your controller doesn’t understand
I’d start removing lines of code and see what happens. Also try a simple shape like a square. Or code it by hand. Have fun, it’s a good way to learn.


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[adamfromUK]

Stepper looses steps or stepper shaft not tight.what is that? and how does it loose steps?

My thoughts were

It could be the way i saved the G-Code in Aspire? as there is sevral options

It looses steps, but not sure how that happens

Saying this i was hoping someone elese has had this happen to them before

Today i will try more new shaps, and texts

and will update

But always handy to know 100% how it happened


Thanks for the input guys , cheers

[philba]

Start a process of elimination to find the problem. Use a gcode viewer to look at your code first. I use https://ncviewer.com/ but there are plenty to choose from. It will tell you if it is your machine or the gcode.

[adamfromUK]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Sadly happened again!

I saved as G Code Mach 3

and even on my first cut it went haywire!

I then said lets try no G Code and a straight cut using my keyboard

I pressed the arrow key firmly and it will move perfectly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then it just stopped!

so tried a few times it will move using the keyboard arrow key so much then it just stops!

This is making me think its hardware issues somewhere?:drowning::drowning:

[adamfromUK]

MMMMMMMMMMM

Could also be the Windows 7 PC

As the Wireless Mouse and Keyboard dont work 90% of the time, PITA now

Im going to try this on another PC soon! (chair)

[adamfromUK]

The Y Axis in MACH3 Was ticked and the X wasnt! in DIR LOW Active

i just unticked it, dont think that would of helped any as the X wasnt ticked

[philba]

Calm down, these are simple machines. First off, you need to be methodical in your approach. Try jogging each axis in turn to see if that works OK. Does it stop in the same location? On the one(s) that fail, disconnect the motor and move it by hand to see if there is any binding. (that's my guess but you've presented zero info about your machine...) If it is a dual motor moving gantry, maybe it racks?

But before anything else, make sure everything is tightened up. Even if it seems solid, even a small amount of slop can cause problems.

[adamfromUK]

Thats a great reply, thanks philba i had it working last year must be something simples

But will try that now!

[adamfromUK]

I THINK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Ive just made a major discovery!


When switched the X Axis and the Z Axis is SOLID! When you Push or Pull these two axis it doesnt move!

The Y Axis Moves manually Easily bby about 1cm back and forth! Now that must be the issue?

Somewhere somewhow the Y Axis is moving freely by about 1cm before being the same as the X and Z

So it has to be something to do with my Y Axis

Im not sure now if its mechanical or its a fault in the motor etc, But i think its been established that its a mechanical fault somewhere on the Y axis

wherever its the belt, bolts, nuts or nema 23 issue!

Y AXIS I think is the culprit

Working on that now!

[adamfromUK]

oH DEAR

Did it again


3 one was the star and it went pair shaped




DSC02946.jpg

[adamfromUK]

FFS!

Its happening still


I just installed a new motion controller
ZKMotion Mach3 4 Axis USB CNC Motion Card

And now my drivers use 4 x wires insted of 3 before

Still im getting cocked up signs lol

I sit Motor tuning? this is something im still working on guys!

with the new controller! Seems to do its own thing and doesnt follow the sip[le GCode as attached

any ideas guys




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M30

[CNCMAN172]

This appears to be binding in your machine. You can so some simple gcode commands on your machines, such as follows:
First home your machine, did it get home successfully?
Now in your MDI entry, type
G1 X5 F50 does it move to the right five inches?
G1 Y5 F50 does it move in the Y direction five inches?

With the machine powered down can you move the X and Y axis smoothly? You could have a loose coupler from the stepper motor to the ballscrew or leadscrew.

Post a picture of your machine.

Russ