[darko9000]

Hi everybody,


I'm wondering if I can get some help from somebody who might have a similar setup.


For the past year I have been slowly putting together my CNC and with the help from all the forums including this one, I was able to actually put this thing together. So far everything is working amazingly well. I can load up a program and cut a piece of wood (that's all I have tried so far just cutting hardwood and lumber no aluminum)


The way I have this thing working is, I will turn on the spindle manually on the VFD and then go to my computer and start the program. All of that is working with no issues.


What I would like to try to do is wire the VFD to my MB3 board and use Mach 4 to control spindle coming ON at the beginning of the program and turning OFF on the end of the program. I have tried to find some information online but the few things that I have found I did not quite understand, or the person had a different controller board then I have.


I am wondering if there's anybody here that has a similar setup to mine and can share how exactly they wired their MB3 to a VFD and what settings did they use in Mach4 to have this thing working correctly. I see on my MB3 manual where I must wire the VFD but I am not sure what terminal on my VFD I have to use, and other than enabling Mach4 settings what else must be done to have this thing working properly. If there's anybody that can give me a help with wiring this thing correctly it would be greatly appreciated.


Darko

[Sterob]

Hi Darko,
I have the same BOB but different VFD and I'm using Mach 3.
I did a drawing for my own benefit, so I attch it here.

Basically, you need to configure a digital input on you VFB to start when contact closes and stop when it opens, and to accept ( usually ) a 0 to 10VDC speed signal.
Look in yourVFD manual to identify.

Hope this helps a bit.


Attachment 465000

[darko9000]

I got help from wessongt on reddit on how to wire it and I got it wired but not sure what to do in mach4.

i have wired:

AO on mb3 is going to Vl on vfd
AG on mb3 is going to ACM on vfd
CM1 on mb3 is going to FOR on vfd
NO1 on mb3 is going to DCM on vfd
CM2 on mb3 is going to REW on vfd
NO2 on mb3 is going to DCM on vfd


my VFD settings


PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=1
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD006=2.5
PD007=0.50
PD008=220
PD009=13
PD010=6.5
PD011= 0
PD013= 08
PD014=10
PD015=10
PD070=0
PD072=400
PD073=0
PD141=220
PD142= 9
PD143=4
PD144=3000

does this looks like I'm on the right track? What settings do I need to change in mach4, I have tried few things but could not get spindle to work.

anybody?

[mactec54]

I got help from wessongt on reddit on how to wire it and I got it wired but not sure what to do in mach4.

i have wired:

AO on mb3 is going to Vl on vfd
AG on mb3 is going to ACM on vfd
CM1 on mb3 is going to FOR on vfd
NO1 on mb3 is going to DCM on vfd
CM2 on mb3 is going to REW on vfd
NO2 on mb3 is going to DCM on vfd


my VFD settings


PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=1
PD003=400
PD004=400
PD005=400
PD006=2.5
PD007=0.50
PD008=220
PD009=13
PD010=6.5
PD011= 0
PD013= 08
PD014=10
PD015=10
PD070=0
PD072=400
PD073=0
PD141=220
PD142= 9
PD143=4
PD144=3000

does this looks like I'm on the right track? What settings do I need to change in mach4, I have tried few things but could not get spindle to work.

anybody?

What are your spindle spec's, some of the Parameters you list don't look correct for these spindles

You also don't use Rev for these spindles

[darko9000]

What are your spindle spec's, some of the Parameters you list don't look correct for these spindles

You also don't use Rev for these spindles

The spindle is Huanyung 2.2 kw water cooled spindle HY02D223B

[mactec54]

The spindle is Huanyung 2.2 kw water cooled spindle HY02D223B

Before you connect to the VFD Drive you need to check the 0-10v analog Board output to see if it is working in MDI you can test by using a M3S12000 this should be around 5v until you have this working there is no point of connecting to the VFD Drive the wiring looks correct except there should be no reverse connection

Main Supply Power Single Phase Connection for this VFD Drive is R /L1 T /L2 and Ground For NA connection

At a guess your spindle motor spec's are
220v
400Hz
8.5A
24,000RPM

Here are the Parameters you need to correct

Note ( If PD011=100 and PD073=100 Are Changed then PD006 and PD009 will also have to have to be changed to a different calculated Number )

PD006=150

PD007=20

PD009=82

PD010=11

PD011=100

PD014=8 ( Acceleration Adjust to suit )

PD015=8 ( Deceleration Adjust to suit )

PD023=0 ( Forward Rotation Only )

PD073=100

PD120=110

PD143=2

PD174=11

[darko9000]

That is the problem Mactec54, I did read the manual I just don't understand it.
Are this pictures better, https://imgur.com/a/wER8Ve9

[mactec54]

That is the problem Mactec54, I did read the manual I just don't understand it.
Are this pictures better, https://imgur.com/a/wER8Ve9

I could see one thing CM1 N01 is not the FOR Relay you have active for the Spindle On /Off you have CM3 N03 so you have to test this Relay output and wire it correct to the VFD Drive to FOR and DCM

The pulley settings and the PWM are the main things to set the PWM should be 100

[darko9000]

I could see one thing CM1 N01 is not the FOR Relay you have active for the Spindle On /Off you have CM3 N03 so you have to test this Relay output and wire it correct to the VFD Drive to FOR and DCM

Ok, i have fixed this now.
i have:

AO on mb3
AG on mb3
CM3 on mb3
NO3 on mb3 (the NO3 light on MB3 comes on during M03 S12000)

No vires are connected to VFD

I have my meter set to DC

If I do M03 S12000 in MDI I get 10 mV on my meter touching AO and AG wires
if I do M03 S24000 in MDI I get 10 mV on my meter touching AO and AG wires

If I do M05 in MDI I get 30.1 mV on my meter touching AO and AG wires

If I reverse my meter probes i get -10mV

The pulley settings and the PWM are the main things to set the PWM should be 100

I don't understand this, are you referring to this seting.https://imgur.com/a/YNEDIER

[mactec54]

Ok, i have fixed this now.
i have:

AO on mb3
AG on mb3
CM3 on mb3
NO3 on mb3 (the NO3 light on MB3 comes on during M03 S12000)

No vires are connected to VFD

I have my meter set to DC

If I do M03 S12000 in MDI I get 10 mV on my meter touching AO and AG wires
if I do M03 S24000 in MDI I get 10 mV on my meter touching AO and AG wires

If I do M05 in MDI I get 30.1 mV on my meter touching AO and AG wires

If I reverse my meter probes i get -10mV





I don't understand this, are you referring to this seting.https://imgur.com/a/YNEDIER

Just put your meter so that is beeps when you touch the 2 probes together then check the Relay output, with your meter set like this, the meter will beep for M3 On and nothing when M5 Off as simple as that

Check in Mach4 spindle settings first before you change that setting, these settings need to be setup in Mach4

[darko9000]

Just put your meter so that is beeps when you touch the 2 probes together then check the Relay output, with your meter set like this, the meter will beep for M3 On and nothing when M5 Off as simple as that

Check in Mach4 spindle settings first before you change that setting, these settings need to be setup in Mach4

OK! i got something right!

I did continuity test on CM3-FOR and NO3-DCM and i get beep on spindle ON, and no beep on spindle OFF.

i also was looking in mach4 (configure-control-spindle) and this page is the only one referring to spindle and this is how it looks now.https://imgur.com/a/iCgr7sN

[darko9000]

Ok I tried :
PD000=0
PD001=0
PD002=0
nothing happens

I tried
PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=1
spindle turns on goes to 6000 rpm and stays there, cant change rpm with the little dial

I tried
PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=0
spindle turns on goes to 24000 rpm and stays there, cant change rpm with the little dial

[mactec54]

Ok I tried :
PD000=0
PD001=0
PD002=0
nothing happens

I tried
PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=1
spindle turns on goes to 6000 rpm and stays there, cant change rpm with the little dial

I tried
PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=0
spindle turns on goes to 24000 rpm and stays there, cant change rpm with the little dial

Try the J1 Jumper in the other position

[darko9000]

Try the J1 Jumper in the other position

YES!!

Switching jumper to 2-3 position and

PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=1

was able to start and stop spindle in mach4 and was able to change rpm with dial on VFD

[mactec54]

YES!!

Switching jumper to 2-3 position and

PD000=0
PD001=1
PD002=1

was able to start and stop spindle in mach4 and was able to change rpm with dial on VFD

Just have to get the PWM setup and you will be set, this will have to be setting in Mach4 which I think you have already done, so just the ESS to get configured so post the photos just as you have been doing, as they show up clear enough to see what needs to be changed

[darko9000]

Just have to get the PWM setup and you will be set, this will have to be setting in Mach4 which I think you have already done, so just the ESS to get configured so post the photos just as you have been doing, as they show up clear enough to see what needs to be changed

Thank you very much for helping me get this going!!!

This is how the ESS looks nowhttps://imgur.com/a/vK0l8TZ
and mach4https://imgur.com/a/3tJfHFi