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  1. #1
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    G76 NEED HELP

    I am looking to program a G76 on a workpiece just to round the corner ever so slightly so it isn't sharp. The axis coordinates I need rounded are X7.874 Z-0.450 and another corner that needs to be rounded is at X0.9500 Z-0.0450. I am unsure of how to write the code exactly. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

    My program is as follows:
    G00 X19.7 Z4.
    NAT1
    (FACE THE FRONT)
    (OD ROUGH RIGHT - 80 DEG.)
    (CNMG-432)
    G90 G95
    M08
    M41
    G50 S1200
    G97 S289 M03
    T010101
    G00 Z0.03
    G00 X8.3207
    G96 S630
    G01 G95 X8.3207 F.008
    X6.668
    G00 X3.1000
    G01 X3.1000
    X0.500
    G00 Z.1
    X8.3500
    G00 Z0.01
    G00 X8.3207
    G01 G95 X8.3207 F.008
    X6.668
    G00 X3.1000
    G01 X3.1000
    X0.500
    G00 Z.1
    X8.3500
    G00 Z0.0
    G00 X8.3207
    G01 G95 X8.3207 F.008
    X6.668
    G00 X3.1000
    G01 X3.1000
    X0.500
    G00 Z.1
    X8.05
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X8.02
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.990
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.970
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.950
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.920
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.900
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.884
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.874
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.929
    X8.0
    G00 Z.1
    M09
    M05
    G00 X19.7 Z4.
    NBT1
    M00 (STOCK FLIP)
    (T010101 - OD ROUGH RIGHT - 80 DEG. - CORNER RAD .0156")
    NAT2
    (FACE THE FRONT)
    (OD ROUGH RIGHT - 80 DEG.)
    (CNMG-432)
    G90 G95
    M08
    M41
    G50 S1200
    G97 S289 M03
    T010101
    G00 Z-.02
    G00 X8.3207
    G96 S630
    G01 G95 X8.3207 F.008
    X6.668
    G00 X3.1000
    G01 X3.1000
    X0.500
    G00 Z.1
    X8.35
    G00 Z-.0350
    G00 X8.3207
    G01 G95 X8.3207 F.008
    X6.668
    G00 X3.1000
    G01 X3.1000
    X0.500
    G00 Z.1
    X8.35
    G00 Z-.0450
    G00 X8.3207
    G01 G95 X8.3207 F.008
    X6.668
    G00 X3.1000
    G01 X3.1000
    X0.500
    G00 Z.1
    X8.05
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X8.02
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.990
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.970
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.950
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.920
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.900
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.884
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.2
    G00 Z.1
    X7.874
    G01 Z.03
    Z-.43
    X8.0
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X19.7 Z4.
    M01
    NAT2
    (ROUGH ID)
    (ID ROUGH MIN. 1.0 DIA. - 75 DEG.)
    (NONE)
    G90 G95
    M08
    M41
    G50 S1200
    G97 S289 M03
    T101010
    G00 Z.1
    X1.4200
    G96 S630
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4500
    G00 Z.1
    X1.3900
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.3600
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.3300
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.3000
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.2700
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.2400
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.2100
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    X1.1900
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.4
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1795
    G01 G95 Z-1.300 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1500
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1200
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1000
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X0.9800
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X0.9600
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X0.9500
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X19.7 Z4.
    M05
    M00
    M01
    NAT2
    (ROUGH ID 2)
    (ID ROUGH MIN. 1.0 DIA. - 75 DEG.)
    (NONE)
    G90 G95
    M08
    M41
    G50 S1200
    G97 S289 M03
    T101010
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1500
    G96 S630
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1200
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X1.1000
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X0.9800
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X0.9600
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    G00 X0.9500
    G01 G95 Z-.4695 F.008
    G01 X1.2
    G00 Z.1
    M09
    G97 S599
    M05
    G00 X19.7 Z4.
    M02
    %

  2. #2
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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    did you try
    G76 0.1 ?
    or chamfer
    G75 0.1 ?
    Pay attention: Tool tip radius must be correctly set for these operations.

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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    G01 X7.874 Z-0.450 G76 L0.1
    "Imagination is more important than knowledge."

  4. #4
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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    I am unsure of how to write the code exactly.
    hy nathanokemma if you wish, begin with drawing finish contour on a paper, and have a list of coordinates .... from there, i will show how to create the code, put compensation and chamfers

    just to round the corner ever so slightly so it isn't sharp
    for small chamfers, barely visible, you should use a small feed, so to allow the spindle to stay a couple of full revolutions over your chamfer

    for example, for a 0.1chamfer, use a 0.03mm/revo ...

    even so, if the feed before the chamfer is too big, relativ to the feed on the chamfer, then machine may still rush fast and not execute the chamfer corectly, because of controler tolerances, etc

    in other words, small chamfers may appera diferently, only by changing the feedoverride this is food for thougth, as for now, i believe you should focus on how to write the code, if you have time, possibilty, etc / kindly
    Ladyhawke - My Delirium, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_bFO1SNRZg

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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

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  6. #6
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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    for small chamfers, barely visible, you should use a small feed, so to allow the spindle to stay a couple of full revolutions over your chamfer

    for example, for a 0.1chamfer, use a 0.03mm/revo ...

    even so, if the feed before the chamfer is too big, relativ to the feed on the chamfer, then machine may still rush fast and not execute the chamfer corectly, because of controler tolerances, etc
    ... use G09/G61 for Exact Stopping sharp corner or radius will fix that feed problem. Search "okuma exact stop"
    DJ

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    Re: G76 NEED HELP


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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    ... use G09/G61 for Exact Stopping sharp corner or radius will fix that feed problem. Search "okuma exact stop"
    hy machinehop be sure, i know g-code for okuma droop control ...

    9 61 is mill, and this is a lathe discusion my dear sunshine / you are the best ... kindly
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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    I tried inputting that code and got an "Alarm B Chamfering L Over". Maybe there's something I'm missing?

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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by deadlykitten View Post
    hy nathanokemma if you wish, begin with drawing finish contour on a paper, and have a list of coordinates .... from there, i will show how to create the code, put compensation and chamfers



    for small chamfers, barely visible, you should use a small feed, so to allow the spindle to stay a couple of full revolutions over your chamfer

    for example, for a 0.1chamfer, use a 0.03mm/revo ...

    even so, if the feed before the chamfer is too big, relativ to the feed on the chamfer, then machine may still rush fast and not execute the chamfer corectly, because of controler tolerances, etc

    in other words, small chamfers may appera diferently, only by changing the feedoverride this is food for thougth, as for now, i believe you should focus on how to write the code, if you have time, possibilty, etc / kindly
    Thank you my list of coordinates that need to be rounded are as follows:

    X7.874 Z-.0450

    X1.1795 Z-.4695

    X.9500 Z-.0450

  11. #11
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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    take the sheet of paper, pencil and draw the sketch.
    starting point, final point, tool tip radius compensation and desired chamfer.
    You will see very evidently.

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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    X7.874 Z-.0450

    X1.1795 Z-.4695

    X.9500 Z-.0450
    hy nathanokemma that's not a regular od shape, because z goes z-, then z+ ... is this a face ?

    pls share tool radius and desired chamfer/fillet value ... i will check from there / kindly

    ps : hy mr bunny >oo<
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    Re: G76 NEED HELP

    Have you tried just using a G2 or G3 if you are only looking to radius a corner?
    In my experience G76 is typically only used for auto rounding the two corners on a chamfer.
    As far as your "ALARM B CHAMFERING L OVER" issue, remember that L is the radius value and if using cutter comp your start point and end point need to be outside of the tangent points before initiating or ending a G76

    Example putting a .1 X 45° chamfer with .02 radius
    on each corner going from face (Z Zero) to a 1.00 OD using 1/32 tool nose radius.

    WITH CUTTER COMP ON
    GO X.7 Z1.0 (RAPID CLEARANCE MOVE)
    G1 G41 Z0 F50.0 (FEED TO FACE, ACTIVATE COMP)
    X.7375 (STRAIT LINE FEED BUT BELOW START POINT)
    G76 X.8 L.02 F.003 (START POINT OF CHAMFER W/RAD.)
    G76 X1.0 Z-.1 L.02 (END POINT OF CHAMFER W/RAD.)
    G1 Z-.14 (STRAIT LINE FEED BEYOND END POINT)
    X1.1 F50.0 (RETRACT)

    Hope this helps

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