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    Cincinnati Arrow BDS5 Info Needed

    A buddy and I are currently retrofitting an Arrow 1000 with a Centroid Oak board, I have the X, Y, and Z functioning properly. We have the spindle to a point where it can be controlled by the Oak. The problem is you have to use MotionLink Plus to put the BDS5 into analog mode and enable it every time it is power cycled. After that it will function properly under the Oak's control. We've figured out that Cincinnati have their own coding loaded into it but it is locked. So we can not extract it, modify it, or over-write it. Does anyone know how to get past this?

    I saw elsewhere that the drive is looking for signals on the IO lines to be happy. Wondering if anyone has further knowledge on this?

    Even open to if anyone knows anything about just resetting the BDS5 to the OEM state to just wipe the user stored coding from it.

    Any help is appreciated.

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    Re: Cincinnati Arrow BDS5 Info Needed

    People do not understand that the VFS5 user variables and program are stored on RAM (CMOS memory) that is in a Dallas Real-Time Clock Chip with an INTERNAL battery embedded inside the Chip package.
    Once the INTERNAL Battery has gone below the voltage level to maintain the RAM (Memory); the Chip MUST be replaced and then reloaded.
    This is normally done by Kollmorgen VFS5 drive technicians that will also clean the drive, replace fans, replace bad capacitors.
    These batteries have a life span of less then 10 years at best. Your machine is much older than that.
    If it has NOT been repaired by people with Kollmorgen knowledge and expertise; then it probably will lose or corrupt anything that is manually
    programmed into it until it is properly repaired.
    Reference info:
    A brief introduction to the spindle servo module VFS5 – CNC_Principle_Repair
    https://www.cncwiki.org/index.php?ti...le_view_mobile
    Three examples of Kollmorgen VFS5 servo repair – CNC_Principle_Repair
    https://www.kollmorgen.com/developer...-bds5-and-vfs5

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