They have something to do with JT the owner of the company. So don't believe what you hear from those three. Believe what you see. And to do that you need someone with a machine and go see for yourself. It doesn't take a brain scientist to see the problems unless the person is trying to hide them. JT will show you a machine that has been cleaned up and works good but don't expect the same quality when it's shipped. I will be far from it. Finding someone with a new machine will be hard because sales aren't to good for JT right now.