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  1. #1
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    Mach3 via Syil X4+ MPG remote

    We designed a custom cable that attachs to an unmodified Syil X4+ MPG via a DB15 male connector and to the PC via a DB25+USB.

    Whats the point of it? You can use the MPG and not lose the references and softlimits.

    Of course, the MPG can be used with any machine, for example I used it with a SX3


    Here is a video I just made:

    [ame="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=662177008976443556&hl=en"]Mach3 via Syil X4+ MPG remote[/ame]


    Hope you all like it


    Pablo

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    Cool!! Is the MPG available seperately?
    Regards,
    Wes

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    So using the mpg as it comes standard in the X4 won't interface with Mach3???

    Do you have a wiring diagram for the cable?

    Was any drivers or software configuration needed?

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    Here is the Schematic, no drivers necessary, you just need to add a new parallel port and configure OEM triggers and their OEM codes.



    I have the OEM configs at the office, on monday I will post how to set it up.

    I can make a small run of cables if there is enough interest

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    Quote Originally Posted by metalworkz View Post
    Cool!! Is the MPG available seperately?
    I purchased an extra one from CNC4PC: http://www.cnc4pc.com/Store/osc/prod...roducts_id=160 they sell it with a DB25 connector already wired and setup files to make our lives easier, if you dont have a X4+ this is what you need

    Arturo is a great guy to deal with and his service is top notch!

    I will receive mine next week, will post comments.

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    well done Pablo, I think it'll only be a matter of time before people begin to realise how useful this will be. Any chance you could post the OEM codes and brief setup description?

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    Sorry for the delay, we ran out of X4+ (more coming in a few weeks) I went to one of our customers to install this mod and made the full tutorial.
    We're selling to our local customers the ready made cable+parallel port+installation for $70

    Here are the screen captures, they are self explanatory:


    Open in Windows device manager the installed parallel port and look for its I/O Range

    Enter this value as shown for port2 and check the enable 2-9pins as input

    verify that you have mach set up as shown

    Configure pins


    Configure System hotkeys to use the OEM triggers

    Configure MPG, the values will be different, you need to calibrate all 3

    In general config verify the highlighted values


    Attached is the ready made XML.

    Good luck, and if you need this custom cable sent to you, just send me a PM to arrange the $$ details


    Pablo
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    Wow guys, I tought I would receive a couple of requests in the next months, and I received 4 already

    Not that Im complaining, but since these cables take a couple of hours to be made I decided to sketch a quick and dirty PCB to speed things up a little. You will laught at my PCB design abilities, but in this case cosmetics is not as important as a job properly done, and besides this, you won't see it because it will be under isolation

    So please give me a few days (no more than a week) to have them done, I have a local shop with very fast tournaround times.

    BTW, I can receive payment by paypal (cash or cc) and I ship via registered mail, the shipping cost is $8

    Thanks!


    Pablo

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    I will try making the PCBs myself:




    Never did a double layer, but Im willing to try

    Will report on monday

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    Today I finished the prototype, it wasn't as easy as I initially tought, but it was a really nice learning experience, also I made a small tooling plate that Im sure will come handy in the future:



    Pattern is every 10mm one threaded 1/8" one not, the only holes that pass thru are the one adjacent to the long sides

    Will try to make the remaining requested units tomorrow, if time allows. Thanks for the patience.


    Pablo

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    slowly advancing, thanks for the patience:




    Pablo

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    Pablo, no rush at this end. I would rather have it right then fast. We all appreciate your taking the initiative on this.
    Rgerds, len

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    Finished 5 of them:



    I will test them with the X4+ machines we received today, if everything goes OK, they are up for grabs.

    I received one paypal payment and I need to keep one for a local customer, that leaves 3 to be offered.

    Please PM me, thanks!


    Pablo

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    Hi Pablo,

    Just checking to see if you got my PM?

    Cheers
    John

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    Yes I received it, I checked the cables on friday with the newly arrived x4+ and there was a wiring mistake, I will fix it monday or tuesday, sorry for the delay, but I don't want to ask for money if I'm not ready to ship. Thanks!

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    Well, I have bad news and good news, the cables I made with the PCBs machined by me were all miswired
    The good news is that I remade them all again, but with wires instead of a custom PCB, today I tested all of them on the X4+



    These are ready to ship, and to make the process faster I made a cable checker, so I don't make the same mistakes again.

    If some of you wants one of the failed PCBs just let me know, I know there are curious minds out there

    Im sending paypal links to all of you that sent me a request. Thanks again and sorry for the many delays this project had.
    I can make more if needed of course!


    Pablo

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    All paid cables were shipped today, I had to ship them without the parallel port box (packaging) because the local post office registered mail price break is at 150grams, 5 grams more and shipping is more than double!!

    Im doing some more cables

    Thanks!


    Pablo

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    Peu,
    I received your package today!!!
    Thanks for the excellent service, I will try to install it tonight or during the weekend.
    I will keep you informed of my progress.
    Once again thanks.

    Martin
    Martin

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    all paid cables were shipped, many should be at their new homes by now, I have some more already done if someone is interested.

    Thanks!

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    Hi Pablo,

    The cable arrived this morning safe and sound. I've connected and configured it and it is all working.

    Have you tried it out on the C6 lathe? Some config directions like you did for the X4 would be good if you have.

    Thanks
    John

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