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  1. #1
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    Smile 8020 build 3x5

    Hello everyone,
    I've been starting to gather components for my new machine.

    • 8020 1530 pieces from 8020 surplus for most of the frame
    • Cncrouterparts for the linear carriages, leadscrew bearings, and motor mounts.
    • 5 start 1/2-10 acme rod for the leadscrews
    • dumpstercnc couplers and AB nuts
    • 3 425ozin keling stepper motors
    • The new gecko g250 when it comes out
    • more to be added later


    Here is preliminary sketchup drawing.

    Comments are appreciated!

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    picture
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    Looking good

    Hey,

    I build one smaller but similar. Might give you some ideas. Visit http://www.neo7cnc.com

    Look forward to updates on your progress.

    Dave

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    Sieg,
    I'll be watching to see how things go! Your parts should arrive towards the end of the week (once I get the radial bearings you requested). Cool that you're going with the G250 -- it will be interesting to see a machine using some of the latest and greatest components.

    Ahren
    www.cncrouterparts.com

  5. #5
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    Hey, great to see another 8020 build in the works. What kind of footprint are you thinking of?

    Also, just curious, why did you go with the 5-start Acme screws?

    Can't wait to see your progress!

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    Hey that looks good. I need a small help. am working on designing a CNC machine using solidworks for a course of mine. Am kinda strucka s I dont know where to start or what design to work with. Can you suggest em some ideas so that I can go ahead with my project.

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    For my footprint I'm shooting for 3 by 5. I haven't gotten it completely designed up yet. It has to be at least 5 feet long... the y-axis I have some leeway. Not sure yet how much on the z-axis yet. Anyone have any thoughts on the height of the z-axis?

    I went with the 5-start screw mostly for a decent speed. It seems they are better all ways in the 1 or 2 start ones except for cost. Also it seems that a lot of people who start on the 1 start end up switching to the 5-start.

  8. #8
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    Hi anne,
    I'm not sure if I can help you much... This is my first machine. What I did was look at lots of other people's machines to get some ideas. Such as, Joes 4x4, Hack's Machine, jgro, joes 2006.

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    That'll be an impressive beast when complete at that size - especially if you get some good speed with those 5-starts. Maybe I should switch to them as well, speed is one of my big concerns right now.

    What are you going to be doing with the machine? That'll be the biggest decision maker for your Z axis. Seems like most of the setups around here have around 1-2" Z travel, but I built mine with 10". Biggest limitation there is actually the drill bit - I don't trust super-long bits, so I can't carve 10" straight down into a block of material.

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    I'll mostly be trying to cut kiteboards... along with trying out skis and snowboard perhaps. So I wouldn't need that much z travel.

    I have other ideas more artistic ideas... like a 3d relief of a map. That could use the slightly longer z travel. Although I probably could do something like that a few (vertical) inches at a time and glue it up.

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    5 start screws help for a few of reasons -- they're more efficient than single start, so for the same power in you get more speed/thrust out. They also require less rotational speed for the same linear speed, which has two benefits. First of all, it allows stepper motors to operate in a lower rotational speed range where they are more efficient. Secondly, the point at which longer screws start to whip is a function of rotational speed, so with multi-start screws, you can get more linear speed before screw whip cuts you off.

    Ahren
    www.cncrouterparts.com

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    First Cuts.. More later




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    Awesome machine! The motion looks super smooth and fast. If you want to get your Z-axis closer to the gantry to cut down on flex, I now sell a Z-plate that will bolt directly to the carriages spanning your Z-rail. You just need to tap the carriage holes to 3/8-16.

    If you're willing to provide a Bill of Materials for your machine, I'm happy to send you a Z plate and low profile bearing (that the Z plate can slide over) for free. I'd like to post the BOM on my site since there's lots of folks asking for good machine plans, and yours is one of the best I've seen. Shoot me an email through the website if you're interested.

    Best regards,

    Ahren
    www.cncrouterparts.com

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    thats a nice cut, kindly post pictures of the full machine.

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    Very Nice! Looks like everything is going quick and smooth.

    Now comes the sleepless nights, cutting everything you can think of

    I'll have to stop over and see it "live" in action!

    Good work again.
    Everything that everyone wants you to make, is always 1 inch larger than what your machine can cut.

  16. #16
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    Camera broke so I took some video of my machine.

    Overview


    X-axis


    Y-axis


    Z-axis and drive screw


    Electronics

  17. #17
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    Kiteboard

    Drilling out the holes for the tnuts that are used for the foot straps.



    Cutting out the board



    Finished boards


  18. #18
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    Looks like it is working pretty good, I am about to convert my system from xylotex to G251's, a 48 volts 7.5 amp, Keling Steppers and a C10 break out board so it was good to actually see one working

    Good Stuff....
    Cheers, Bob
    http://www.ocm.com.au/wordpress/

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    Sieg,
    Did you get the Z-axis plate and bearing I sent yet? I'm interested to see if it works out for you.

    Thanks,

    Ahren

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    Yes I just got it yesterday. I started to put it on... but I have been getting busy with other things. I'll take some pictures when I get it together.

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