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  1. #1
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    having issues with a program

    I am trying to run a new program on the machine and when I load the g code an error message pops up in the status bar "radius from end of arc differs from radius to start line 12" I had a problem like this in the past and Tommy solved it for me. I can not get ahold of him right now. Anybody have any ideas. Thanks

  2. #2
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    What the message is saying is the distance relationship between start and end point do not match the I & J's of your arc's R value. So, what you will have to do is calculate your arc point to both so that the the I's & J's are in proper relationship to your R value. This is what keeps the arc the same distance from center of arc all the way through the arc. It is easier done than said ! Just get out your calculator and crunch some numbers and it won't take long and you will know what I am trying to say here.
    Don
    Don
    IH v-3 early model owner

  3. #3
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    Thanks for that info. I am not sure if that is the problem. Last time I had something like this happen Tommy said it is a common error and had me go and change a setting somewhere. Changed the setting and no problems, until now. Thanks

  4. #4
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    Make sure that if you go from linear to circular and back again, that you include a G01 or G02/3 depending. Many times an error like that is because you have:

    G02X###Y###R###F###
    Y####

    The "Y" line would need a G01 (if it is in fact a linear move)

    What is the machine, and what is the controller? Could you also post the code where it errors out?

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    it is all circles. it is a backing plate for my lathe. The machine is anIH cnc with mach 3 software. The design was done in dolphincad/cam. it errors out at line 12. Thanks

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    First off when posting a lot of code push the "#" button in the second line of the message editor and put the code inside the code tags.
    That way your message is not hell and gone long.

    Second lines 15 and 16 have I and J values of 0.0 that means a radius of zero.
    I am thinking your CAM program and or post processor need some adjustment.

    Code:
    N13G03X-1.791Y1.791I-1.791J0.0F50
    N14X-3.581Y0.0I-1.791J0.0
    N15X0.0Y-3.581I0.0J0.0
    N16X3.581Y0.0I0.0J0.0

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    thanks for the tip on the short code.. I am not very familiar with the actual coding of things so I did not notice that. I have made another drawing and it has done the same thing. Where do I look for the adjustments on the cam or processor? Thanks

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    change your code output so your I and J values are not used and when programming a G02 and G03 you use an R value.

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    Runner, thanks for the input but I have no idea as to where i change these. Can you shed some more light on this for me? Thanks

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    this is in your post processor and not in mach 3. usually there are settings in the post processor on how to output code. one of the options should be R instead of I and J. use the R option and you won't have any more issues.

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    I am using Dolphin Cad Cam are u familiar with this software? I can not find anywhere to change the output code. when I do my post process there is just a button at the bottom that I hit. If you can shed anymore light i would appreciate it. Thanks again

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    I am not familiar with dolphin cad/cam. i bought and use onecnc xr3.

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    do you have a link to the software? i am not happy with the dolphin software, never have been. The support sucks. when i had some issues awhile back with the post processor it was like pulling teeth to get them to respond. i finally figured out that they sent me the wrong processor and evr since then my phone calls and emails have gone unanswered. is the service better with the one you have? Thanks

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    http://www.onecnc.net/

    they also have a forum on cnczone and they have their own online help forum. and yes their tech support is fantastic.

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    Thanks i will look into it.

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    Been using dolphin partmaster for a little over 2 years now and have gotten help about 99.9% of the time (maybe once on a Sunday it took a bit longer). Not to take anything away from Onecnc as it is probably a very nice product, but maybe SWC should check himself in the mirror and realize that YOU may be the problem and not the software. Just went through about the last 50 threads and didnt really see anyone having problems.

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    Oh yea, just my .02 cents

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    Harley, thanks for your insight. I did contact Dolphin again today and they were very helpful this time. Using what I learned here from runner and others I explained the issue to them,they sent me the right post processor this time. problem is nor fixed. Thanks

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    Very good to hear. This forum has helped me numerous times over the years in all phases. Communicating with other users is such a help when it comes to certain issues. Glad everything is working well for you now.

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