[cdlenterprises]

I guess the guy from Virgin Airlines is teaming up with Gore to start a new contest. $25 million to the first person/people to develop a method to filter the C02 out of the atmosphere and reduce or reverse the greenhouse effect. Better get started though, you've only got five years according to the rules of the contest.

:cheers:

[fizzissist]

I guess the guy from Virgin Airlines is teaming up with Gore to start a new contest. $25 million to the first person/people to develop a method to filter the C02 out of the atmosphere and reduce or reverse the greenhouse effect. Better get started though, you've only got five years according to the rules of the contest.

:cheers:

...and Branson is going to barf how much pollution for rides into space to observe the effects?

Hey, I got a idea! Hang ferns on his jets, so as they fly all over the globe they can convert evil CO2 into O!!

[jackson]

start planting more trees the ones the government use for all there buracratic bull sh*t paper work

[307startup]

I know it sounds silly...but why not use an industrial-sized CO2 scrubber...like the ones used in Rebreathers for SCUBA divers...trap the CO2 as frozen or liquid product...here in Wyoming we use CO2 to pressurize low-producing oil and gas wells...link five slow-producers with a manifold system...extra product and trapped CO2...I know it's a vicious circle, but until we quit clear-cutting trees or allow hemp to be grown legally (it grows 3 ft in a day in a good environment) we're never going to offset the "Oxygen Deficit" or whatever Al Gore calls it. Simple math...more people, more users, more consumption. No plants to offset...buildup of "high levels of CO2". I agree with the fizzissist Branson is part of the "problem" not the solution.

[Geof]

I know it sounds silly...but why not use an industrial-sized CO2 scrubber...like the ones used in Rebreathers for SCUBA divers...trap the CO2 as frozen or liquid product...here in Wyoming we use CO2 to pressurize low-producing oil and gas wells...link five slow-producers with a manifold system...extra product and trapped CO2...I know it's a vicious circle, but until we quit clear-cutting trees or allow hemp to be grown legally (it grows 3 ft in a day in a good environment) we're never going to offset the "Oxygen Deficit" or whatever Al Gore calls it. Simple math...more people, more users, more consumption. No plants to offset...buildup of "high levels of CO2". I agree with the fizzissist Branson is part of the "problem" not the solution.

The rebreather scrubbers would not be a net adsorber of CO2 because the active ingredients are obtained by heating a CO2 containing rock to drive of the CO2 so that it can then adsorb it again when it functions in the Rebreather.

Trapping CO2 from coal powered generating systems and then using it in oil well enhancement is being studied or actually in use on a small scale. I found this link http://www.world-nuclear.org/info/inf83.html and was amused by the name of the sponsoring organisation.

I am with you on the hemp. Hemp grown on marginal land for processing into biodiesel and chemical feedstock is probably more viable than ethanol from corn and would not artificially perturb corn prices possibly leading to higher food prices.

[fizzissist]

I am with you on the hemp. Hemp grown on marginal land for processing into biodiesel and chemical feedstock is probably more viable than ethanol from corn and would not artificially perturb corn prices possibly leading to higher food prices.

Actually, AlGore and many of the AGW crew have been experimenting with the byproducts of burning hemp, and it has given them a wealth of creative ideas.

[Geof]

Actually, AlGore and many of the AGW crew have been experimenting with the byproducts of burning hemp, and it has given them a wealth of creative ideas.

I wish they would, with commercial hemp that is, you will choke before getting any creative ideas because the active ingedient is such low concentration.

[todd71]

...I know it's a vicious circle, but until we quit clear-cutting trees or allow hemp to be grown legally (it grows 3 ft in a day in a good environment)

"3ft in a day." Where do you live and what are you smoking? Plant it today havest it the day after tomorrow.:wee:

[fizzissist]

"....How does all this sum up? In my estimate the Virgin Airways fleet pollutes our world with close to 8 million tons of CO2 each year. At current CO2 market prices, that would cost Branson $200 million annually. No wonder he turns green. Can he afford it? Let’s again do a few sums. A 747 produces about $30 million in revenues each year. Fifteen of them, plus 25 Airbuses, plus 100 baby Boeings: I have done the sums and arrive at a total of $1,6 billion in annual gross revenues. Almost half of that, 40%, goes to debt service and depreciation, 20% to fuel, and another 20% to crew salaries and maintenance. Branson’s profit then is $ 320 million a year. He would have to hide in Chapter 11 if he were charged for his emissions. He surely needs the technological fix he is angling for with his Virgin Airways Mitigation Prize..."


http://climatesci.colorado.edu/2007/...drik-tennekes/

[higgrobot]

fizzissist,

You forgot to add whatever he makes from his other companies, Virgin Records, Virgin Mobile, Virgin Credit, Virgin Galactic, Virgin Cola, Virgin Vodka, Virgin fuel..Virgin ect ect..i think he may be doing it for tax purposes but he'd be far from chapter 11.

[fizzissist]

...and Virgin Rail, and Virgin Carbon Trading, ....

Here's the latest from AlGore....the Earth's CO2 Powered Energizer Bunny:

Al Gore to Sound Off On Climate Change With Concert Event

By J. Freedom du Lac
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 15, 2007; Page C01

Gore is scheduled to announce the concerts today in Los Angeles. He's expected to be joined there by rock stars Jon Bon Jovi and Sting, rap musician Pharrell Williams and media executive Kevin Wall, who served as worldwide executive producer for Live 8, the 2005 concerts that drew attention to African debt relief.

The Gore-promoted event will be held July 7, according to published reports, with seven major concerts on seven continents. Producers are said to be considering Washington as the North American host city, but one likely venue -- the Mall -- might be unavailable to them, a National Park Service spokesman said yesterday.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021401629.html

Naturally, the entertainers will all be carpooling in a Prius, there will be no carbon arc spotlights, electrical amplification, or anything that loads any additional or unnecessary CO2 into the environment....Anyone attending will be encouraged to walk to the concert.


From AlGore's new Live Earth LLC's website...
"Global warming is the greatest environmental threat humanity has ever faced, and dramatic climate changes are already happening all over the world. 2007 is predicted to be world's warmest year in history...."

"...That audience, and the proceeds from the event, will create the foundation for a new, multi-year global effort to combat the climate crisis led by Vice President Al Gore. Kevin Wall, Worldwide Executive Producer of Live 8, is producing Live Earth. ..."

http://www.liveearth.org/who_we_are.html

Note that it doesn't say FORMER Vice President.....subtle, aren't we???

[higgrobot]

Hmm what we'd need is some type of Chlorophyll device that could convert the CO2 to Carbon and Oxygen and it'll have to be very efficient, maybe solar powered? You'd need a lot of these things. Some big clear area would be required, maybe a logged out forest or something? You'd also have to anchor these things in the ground so they dont blow away, maybe bury the bottom parts in the soil or something. I don't know what we couuld use, it's all too complex for my tiny brain.

[Geof]

Hmm what we'd need is some type of Chlorophyll device that could convert the CO2 to Carbon and Oxygen and it'll have to be very efficient, maybe solar powered? You'd need a lot of these things. Some big clear area would be required, maybe a logged out forest or something? You'd also have to anchor these things in the ground so they dont blow away, maybe bury the bottom parts in the soil or something. I don't know what we couuld use, it's all too complex for my tiny brain.

Now there is a good proposal for a research project! I think we may safely predict it would be a success. Can we form a company and float an IPO?

[kenny1]

Sounds like a tree to me...

kenny1

[higgrobot]

Sounds like a tree to me...

kenny1

Tree? what's that? never heard of it, i'm thinking of calling my device the "solar powered carbon dioxide to carbon and oxygen self regulating clean running self expanding conversion plant" or just plant for short, yes i may call it "plant"? but "tree" does sound good hmm plant..tree..plant..tree?? cant decide?

[307startup]

The simplest easiest route would be to simply replant all the deforested areas. HiggRobot you're pretty funny for a machinist. Instead of all this "research and development" for a technological wonder gadget to solve the problem, it would be easy to take a page from Mother Nature's notebook and plant more flora...hell, in China and India you could find all the cheap labor you need to replant their areas...in America I would suggest Ma & Pa get off their bon-bon loving asses and go down to a home improvement center or greenhouse and buy a half-dozen ornamental trees to plant. That would involve a little Manuel Labore, but that would be good for the SUV driving, latte-swilling, super-sized asses of most Middle-Americans. Or you could just offer homeless people and the unemployed a meal and $5 per tree...sure the bums would wander off after 1 or 2 trees were planted, but a lot of the unemployed would soon see the $$$ to be made for 8 hours of labor...if they got good at it they could make $200 a day. Or if they were planting seedling, $0.50 a pop. Just my 2c's.

[307startup]

That would be cannibis...I was referring to the reefer-free hemp...

[todd71]

That would be cannibis...I was referring to the reefer-free hemp...

Looks like it could happen :banana:

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/In...d_in_0213.html

[ImanCarrot]

We should capture all the CO2 in big polly bags and drop them on Mars to create a runaway greenhouse effect there. Once it's ready for habitation we should bugger off from Earth cos it's knackered now anyway and live on Mars.. and grow another set of arms each so we can operate turret mils and lathes simultaneously

[iggk]

so can 1 patent a tree and seed and win the 25 mill?