587,174 active members*
3,681 visitors online*
Register for free
Login
IndustryArena Forum > MetalWorking > MetalWork Discussion > black oxide for aluminum diy
Results 1 to 12 of 12
  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    267

    black oxide for aluminum diy

    Is there a diy for black oxiding of aluminum (6061) parts? I am looking for a diy kit that you can buy.

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    12177
    An anodizing kit is what you are looking for. Have you tried searching here on CNCzone it has been discussed many times. You will probably also find information if you use Googel and search for 'home based anodizing' or something similar.
    An open mind is a virtue...so long as all the common sense has not leaked out.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    753
    I could help you out if you need help with anodizing.

    I could sell you all the necessar tools needed to start anodizing.

  4. #4
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    2502
    While anodizing is far more common, I will take the poster at his word that he wants a "Black Oxide" treatment for aluminum. These are also available.

    For example, via this product:

    http://www.epi.com/pages/aluminum-blackening

    Caswell has a lot of metal treatments for small batches, though I didn't see any black oxide for aluminum.

    For really small batches and no muss/no fuss, this product from Brownell's works reasonably well:

    http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...ALUMINUM_BLACK

    None of these alternatives will give as nice a finish as anodizing, however.

    Cheers,

    BW
    Try G-Wizard Machinist's Calculator for free:
    http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCGWizard.html

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    267
    Which finish is more tougher, anodized or black oxide for aluminum? I will be making some clamps for my mill and will need some form of rust protection. I was told that black oxide is tougher/stronger/more-durable than anodized aluminum. Is that correct?

    Thanks,

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Posts
    12177
    Quote Originally Posted by georgebarr View Post
    ....I will be making some clamps for my mill and will need some form of rust protection....Thanks,
    Aluminum is naturally 'rust proof' because a protective oxide coating forms spontaneously; in fact you cannot prevent it forming. Anodizing is a process that electrochemically increases the thickness of the oxide layer making it more durable.

    I had a look at the links in the other post and they seem to be not much more than paint; this is a comment in one of them It is not as hard as a black anodized finish. The hardness of the finish can be enhanced by top coating with a clear lacquer....

    Really you do not need to worry about doing anything to protect your clamps.
    An open mind is a virtue...so long as all the common sense has not leaked out.

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    753
    Quote Originally Posted by Geof View Post
    Aluminum is naturally 'rust proof' because a protective oxide coating forms spontaneously; in fact you cannot prevent it forming. Anodizing is a process that electrochemically increases the thickness of the oxide layer making it more durable.

    I had a look at the links in the other post and they seem to be not much more than paint; this is a comment in one of them It is not as hard as a black anodized finish. The hardness of the finish can be enhanced by top coating with a clear lacquer....

    Really you do not need to worry about doing anything to protect your clamps.


    Yes but the cost difference is most likely not much greater with the ano vs black oxide.

    I don't know to much about the black oxide but I am sure the prices aren't to much less than what I could anodize for. I am not sure.

    I am just saying stick with anodizing!

  8. #8
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Posts
    2502
    I'm with Geof. Those products are alternatives to anodizing to achieve mostly a cosmetic effect. Anodizing will give you the best result. The cold bluing formulas for steel are more useful, but you're doing aluminum.

    If you want something quick, dirty, and cosmetic just so your clamps have a finish, consider the other products. But if you want to do it "right", anodizing is the way to go.

    Cheers,

    BW
    Try G-Wizard Machinist's Calculator for free:
    http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCGWizard.html

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    753
    Aluminum for small pieces isn't all that costly to be honest. I offer a no $$ minimum to cnczone clients only. Outside sales are $50 minimum.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Posts
    132
    To answer your question. I sell a low temperature black oxide kit.


    The high temperature is to caustic and very dangerous.

  11. #11
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Posts
    267
    I did some research and there is a Hard Anodizing DIY process at http://www.diyanodizing.com/diy_hard_anodizing_kit.html. This would give the aluminum excellent hardness and corrosion resistance. This is similar to Hard Anodized pots and pans used for cooking.

  12. #12
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Posts
    753
    Quote Originally Posted by georgebarr View Post
    I did some research and there is a Hard Anodizing DIY process at http://www.diyanodizing.com/diy_hard_anodizing_kit.html. This would give the aluminum excellent hardness and corrosion resistance. This is similar to Hard Anodized pots and pans used for cooking.
    unless you are anodizing un 32 degree electorlyte and applying 25 amps a sq foot you aren't hard anodizing.


    I seen that website before and it looks like some chinese knock off website.. They are based in china.


    They do have low temp black oxide.. I mean you get what you get it isn't true black oxide coating.

Similar Threads

  1. How to tell the difference in Black ABS VS Black Delrin?
    By conceptmachinin in forum Material Machining Solutions
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 10-17-2011, 03:43 PM
  2. More monitor black out
    By Kool Parts in forum Haas Mills
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 10-28-2008, 03:22 PM
  3. WHO Does Black PVD?
    By mabmojo in forum Material Machining Solutions
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 09-25-2008, 03:56 PM
  4. PSU surge protection - Metal Oxide Varistors
    By UKRobotics in forum CNC Machine Related Electronics
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 07-16-2007, 06:30 PM
  5. Why are my aluminum parts turning black?
    By widgitmaster in forum MetalWork Discussion
    Replies: 9
    Last Post: 09-27-2006, 04:10 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •