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  1. #1

    Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Hi,
    Could anyone let me have the parameter list for a 1993 Cincinnati Sabre 500 fitted with the Fanuc O-Mate Control.

    Its a new machine to me and the supplied backup floppy cannot be read by PC

    Thanks very much .

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    I don't remember a 0-Mate control being used on those machines from the factory so it may be a retrofit. If it was the original factory control your best bet would be to contact Fives-Cincinnati for support.

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Quote Originally Posted by maver1ck View Post
    I don't remember a 0-Mate control being used on those machines from the factory so it may be a retrofit. If it was the original factory control your best bet would be to contact Fives-Cincinnati for support.

    Thanks Maver1ck for your response. The factory did fit the O-mate as a lower cost version of the O-M to make their machine more competitive I actually bought one from the Factory. It’s not this machine though That went long ago !

    I am based in the UK and I don’t believe there is factory support these days

    I have found a You tube video. Where a guy scrolls through all of the parameters so I am going to try to go through it and write down each parameter then try to input them. Hopefully they will work for my Sabre 500

    Wish me luck

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Ok so I have found parameters N900 to N929 in the electrical schematic book along with parameters F01to F20 ,F29 F31,F35 and F36

    I also have diagnostic numbers 394 395 and 397 and what to set them to

    On another sheet I have 508 ,509,510

    Just not sure what else I need

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    If you know it is the original factory control, support should be available from Fives-MSI "Cincinnati" which is the OEM
    800-934-0735
    Provide your
    Machine-Serial-Number: 70xx-x0y-xxyyyy
    Model Type: EKx or ERx
    Control Diagrams: 9120xxxxy

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Ok just an update on progress.with my '93 Cincinnati Sabre 500 fitted with a Fanuc O-Mate control. I managed to obtain a generic Sabre 500 O-mate parameter list and Keep Relay settings from a guy in the UK ([url=http://www.secserviceparts.co.uk that sells parts for Cincinatti CNC Machines. I already had my machines specific 900 parameters and so have hand inputed them all as I only have the machines full parameter list on the 3.5 floppy that was supplied with the machine and I am unable to read it as I am told a Fanuc specific reader/writer is required.

    So now all Peramters have been inputed I have got rid of all other the other alarms but the alarm I have now is 430 Servo Alarm : Z axis Excess Err. The Z axis drops a smidge when I power up . Because I didnt get this alarm until I reinstalled the Parameters I am thinking I have got some incorrectly set. Can anyone tell me which Parameters would cause this alarm so I can take a look... I have picked up from the Interweb that Parameter 517 should be set to 3000 which was the same as the Parameter list supplied by SEC.

    I just wondered if anyone to steer me the right way please ?

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    [QUOTE=Redarress;2441676]Ok just an update on progress.with my '93 Cincinnati Sabre 500 fitted with a Fanuc O-Mate control. I managed to obtain a generic Sabre 500 O-mate parameter list and Keep Relay settings from a guy in the UK ([url=http://www.secserviceparts.co.uk that sells parts for Cincinatti CNC Machines. I already had my machines specific 900 parameters and so have hand inputed them all as I only have the machines full parameter list on the 3.5 floppy that was supplied with the machine and I am unable to read it as I am told a Fanuc specific reader/writer is required.

    So now all Peramters have been inputed I have got rid of all other the other alarms but the alarm I have now is 430 Servo Alarm : Z axis Excess Err. The Z axis drops a smidge when I power up . Because I didnt get this alarm until I reinstalled the Parameters I am thinking I have got some incorrectly set. Can anyone tell me which Parameters would cause this alarm so I can take a look... I have picked up from the Interweb that Parameter 517 should be set to 3000 which was the same as the Parameter list supplied by SEC.

    I just wondered if anyone to steer me the right way please ?[/QUOTE]

    Check parameters 8300 and so on. Compare them to 8200. Do not change anything. Just take a note of the differences.
    Regards
    AlexFanuc

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Hi Alex,
    Thanks for responding . Below is a list as taken from the control.
    I can find only two line differences that I have indicated below. Could these be the route of the Alarm 430 ?

    8200 00000010 8300 00000010
    8201 00011111 8301 00011111
    8202 00001000 8302 00001000
    8203 00010001 8303 00010001
    8204 00011010 8304 00011010
    8205 00000000 8305 00000000
    8206 00000000 8306 00000000
    8207 00000000 8307 00000000
    8208 00000000 8308 00000000
    8209 00000000 8309 00000000
    8210 00000000 8310 00000000
    8211 00000000 8311 00000000
    8212 00000000 8312 00000000
    8213 00000000 8313 00000000
    8214 00000000 8314 00000000
    8215 00000000 8315 00000000
    8216 00000000 8316 00000000
    8217 00000000 8317 00000000
    8218 00000000 8318 00000000
    8219 00000000 8319 00000000
    8220 32 8320 32
    8221 45 8321 20 ******************* value 45 on 8221 value 20 on 8321
    8222 -111 8322 111 ******************* minus on 8222 pos on 8322
    8223 12000 8323 12000
    8224 12000 8324 12000
    8225 0 8325 0
    8226 0 8326 0
    8227 0 8327 0
    8228 0 8328 0
    8229 0 8329 0
    8230 0 8330 0
    8231 0 8331 0
    8232 0 8332 0
    8233 0 8333 0
    8234 0 8334 0
    8235 0 8335 0
    8236 0 8336 0
    8237 0 8337 0
    8238 0 8338 0
    8239 0 8339 0
    8240 469 8340 469
    8241 -1625 8341 -1625
    8242 -2503 8342 -2503
    8243 217 8343 217
    8244 -1082 8344 -1082
    8245 0 8345 0
    8246 -16471 8346 -16471
    8247 7012 8347 7012
    8248 0 8348 0
    8249 0 8349 0
    8250 1677 8350 1677
    8251 1788 8351 1788
    8252 0 8352 0
    8253 21 8353 21
    8254 3787 8354 3787
    8255 319 8355 319
    8256 0 8356 0
    8257 2330 8357 2330
    8258 57 8358 57
    8259 0 8359 0
    8260 7282 8360 7282
    8261 0 8361 0
    8262 32519 8362 32519
    8263 3112 8363 3112
    8264 4 8364 4
    8265 9256 8365 9256
    8266 0 8366 0
    8267 0 8367 0
    8268 0 8368 0
    8269 0 8369 0
    8270 0 8370 0
    8271 0 8371 0
    8272 0 8372 0
    8273 0 8373 0
    8274 0 8374 0
    8275 0 8375 0
    8276 0 8376 0
    8277 0 8377 0
    8278 0 8378 0
    8279 0 8379 0
    8280 0 8380 0
    8281 0 8381 0
    8282 0 8382 0
    8283 0 8383 0
    8284 0 8384 0
    8285 0 8385 0
    8286 0 8386 0
    8287 0 8387 0
    8288 0 8388 0
    8289 0 8389 0
    8290 0 8390 0
    8291 0 8391 0
    8292 0 8392 0
    8293 0 8393 0
    8294 0 8394 0
    8295 0 8395 0
    8296 0 8396 0
    8297 0 8397 0
    8298 0 8398 0
    8299 0 8399 0

    Thanks for any help /pointers

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    "I can find only two line differences that I have indicated below. Could these be the route of the Alarm 430 ? "

    N0.
    What are the amplifiers that you have?
    Also, I would check the brake in the Z axis. If the motor energizes but you still have the brake on, 430 alarm will appear.
    Regards
    AlexFanuc

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Hello Alex

    What are the amplifiers that you have? ..... could you expalian what you mean. all drives are Fanuc OEM

    I will check but this Alarm started after I stupidy deleted the Parameters and then reinstalled them

    Thanks

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    Re: Cincinnati Sabre 500 Fanuc O-Mate paramiter list

    Quote Originally Posted by Redarress View Post
    Hello Alex

    What are the amplifiers that you have? ..... could you expalian what you mean. all drives are Fanuc OEM

    I will check but this Alarm started after I stupidy deleted the Parameters and then reinstalled them

    Thanks
    Servoamplifier part number. (A06B-60XX-HXXX)
    Did you enter parameters by hand?
    Chek parameters 100 trhu 103
    500 thru 503
    4 thru 7
    Did you enter pmc parameters? (DGN 300 etc)
    regards
    AlexFanuc

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