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View Poll Results: Where would you program Probing measurement cycles?

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  • Generate Probing cycles for part measurement at the machine (e.g. with VQC)

    13 68.42%
  • Generate Probing cycles for part measurement off-line

    10 52.63%
  • Not interested in doing any more than current offered cycles.

    0 0%
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  1. #1
    Join Date
    May 2004
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    Extended Probing Capabilities

    Just wondering if anyone has any interest to extend their current WIPS probing capabilities beyond what is offered in the VQC / IPS screens (i.e. Part measurement rather than just MDI based Work offset updates - or what Renishaw calls EasySet).

    I have developed some VQC screens to use some of the extended Renishaw options like part measurement & printing but am not sure whether people want to do that kind of programming at the machine or off-line.

    Let me know via a poll whether you would like to do extended probing programming a) at the machine b) off-line c) not at all.

    cheers

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Jan 2007
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    1389
    Heck ya I am interested,
    I get parts every once in a while that could/should be able to set in vice probe it print it out and get the measurements.
    IE make sample of customers parts

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Dec 2008
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    319
    Now I'm wishing I had the renishaw!

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
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    340
    guypb, I am using probes to check parts quite often - many times a day using VQC and writing some codes by hand , I can not imagine to work without them, If you ask what you asked I am really wounder how many people use the full potential of their probes , how many people inspect parts with probes , and how many people use probe to set the 4th axis flatness.

    back to your question , I have no trouble to inspect parts by VQC or handmade programs with G65 P98xx , I see no way that you can bring some improvements. If I had a wish , I would wish to have inspection cycles in my CAM , to make inspection programs by mouse clicking.

    Peter

  5. #5
    I also really need them in my CAM session. So great that you have taken the time to create them in IPS. My machines are "locked down" so that there are no program changes on the floor. We have a "first part = good part" policy and there is no tweaking or hand programming on the floor.

    I would like to see the screenshots of your menus.

    Thanks.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
    Posts
    235
    The programs are so simple! The macros do all the work so I do mine offline. Here is the one I use to dial in a four sided tombstone. It probes all four sides and updates g54, g55, g56 and g57. Most of the program I got out of the manual.



    %
    O1

    T25 M06

    G54 G90

    G43 H25 Z4.

    G65 P9832

    G00 A0 (side one g54)

    G65 P9810 X2.8 Y0. Z2. F30

    G65 P9818 Y1.9685 Z.3 S1.

    G65 P9810 Z2.

    A90. (side 2 g55)

    G65 P9810 X2.8 Y0. Z2. F30

    G65 P9818 Y1.9685 Z.3 S2.

    G65 P9810 Z2.

    A180. (side 3 g56)

    G65 P9810 X2.8 Y0. Z2. F30

    G65 P9818 Y1.9685 Z.3 S3.

    G65 P9810 Z2.

    A270. (side 4 g57)

    G65 P9810 X2.8 Y0. Z2. F30

    G65 P9818 Y1.9685 Z.3 S4.

    G65 P9810 Z2.

    G65 P9833

    G28 G91 Z0.

    M30
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  7. #7
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    Jan 2007
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    Ron I have a 4 sided tombstone for use with a 4th axis. ( not for a horizontal machine)

    Not to sound ignorant but what does that marco do for a tombstone?
    Find true position? ie center of each side?
    will it tell how far out the left side is from the right side?

    Delw

  8. #8
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    Jan 2007
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    Ron
    Like A dumbass I didnt read the other post, sorry about the above reply.

  9. #9
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
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    I have added custom drill cycles to Mastercam to do my probing cycles.

  10. #10
    Join Date
    Aug 2009
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    Delw, I unfortunately don't have a horizontal either. I wish I did but I don't. This is my "tombstone" if it's ok to call it that. All the program does is probe two points in the y direction on 50mm centers to get that side parallel with the table. I probe all four sides because I was a little rough when I was machining it and each side is a little different. Only .04 deg. but hey if you have four offsets might as well use 'em.
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