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    Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Hey All,

    I know, a bit off topic, but there are a lot of Fusion 360 users here, especially the hobbyist type like me.

    If you haven't opened fusion lately you might not have seen that they are changing things a bit, to me it looks like the biggest change is separating the hobbyist and the small business folks. They are going to ask for a separate registration, with more info from the small business users.

    Another change is that hobbyist won't have access to the software translators for working with other software tile types, I have never used that function, and don't have a clue if it's important to any Tormach users.

    But, the main reason for this post is that they are offering what seems to me, a good deal if you choose to actually buy a seat, $310.00 US vs the normal price of $495. In addition, the 310 price is locked in forever, if you keep you subscription current.

    I know there are folks here that run small businesses, and if any of you are getting close to the upper income limit and think you might need to go for a commercial seat anytime soon, this special might be a good time to do it. The sale price is good until the end of October.

    Terry

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    To be clear; other then for those who qualify for free service, everyone else who subscribes will not be "buying" a seat (as you might with Rhino Cam). But instead will incur an annual, re-occuring expense. There are pros and cons on each side of the issue.

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Yes, of course it's subscription, not buy, hence the subject line.

    Terry

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Hi All- The Fusion 360 free offer has been a longstanding hook and it had to change to a cost sometime. All of the Autodesk software is now subscription based, can't get a perpetual license. So the free lunch has been had!! Try Freecad will always be open & free. Peter

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Hi All- The Fusion 360 free offer has been a longstanding hook and it had to change to a cost sometime.
    It's still free for Hobbyists. But they removed a few features that most hobbyists wouldn't use anyway, like Collaboration. Very little has changed there.

    What they changed was that companies now have to pay for it, unless you can prove you are a startup that hasn't made any money yet.
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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Has the $100k cap been removed?

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    This starting to look more or less like a "slow hook & reel-in" type situation.
    As Peter said better, you hobby folks might want to look into FreeCAD. I use it myself for personal custom dev and can't complain about much, certainly won't ever about its price nor my work potentially being held hostage.
    Forum and activity is killer also https://forum.freecadweb.org/

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Quote Originally Posted by CL_MotoTech View Post
    Has the $100k cap been removed?
    It looks like it's now $1000/yr. Vastly lowered but not removed.

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Luckily my wife is a full time student, so she gets Fusion for free, or well at least I can say it's included in the price of admission.

    Obviously, I am violating the agreement. My business makes more than $1k, but less than $100k.

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Freecad is a CAD application, whereas Fusion (as the name suggests) brings together other elements on top of CAD. So if you are ever planning on doing any CNC work, Fusion is excellent and Freecad by itself is a chocolate teapot. The simultaneous multi-axis CAM in Fusion is a fantastic offering for students and hobby users and is helping to create a whole new generation of engineers. Just look back at how manufacturing technology has opened up over the last 10-20 years.

    The Fusion team have started to introduce "extensions" which are paid-for features such as advanced probing (inspection) operations and fancy toolpaths. This seems to be the way they plan to increase subscription revenues, beyond lowering the threshold. As long as young engineers (and hobbyists like me) are able to use it without damaging their commercial model, we can all win - and for that I am very grateful. I just hope they don't pull any really cunning stunts on us.....

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Surprised ??? NOT. It will not be that much longer before it is not free to anyone. That is the Autocad way of doing business. You do a lot of the hard work in developement and then they charge you for that privilage.

    Been that way for decades now. Don't see it changing anytime soon.

    (;-) TP

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    Re: Fusion 360 subscription changes

    Quote Originally Posted by vmax549 View Post
    Surprised ??? NOT. It will not be that much longer before it is not free to anyone. That is the Autocad way of doing business. You do a lot of the hard work in developement and then they charge you for that privilage.

    Been that way for decades now. Don't see it changing anytime soon.

    (;-) TP
    Yes. Likely the case. However, it is good marketing to hook people starting out, with free. Thus, most have generous educational discounts (or free). The start-up exclusion is another example and makes sense. Unfortunately, any manager that gives product away for free is under a lot of pressure to prove that it enhances the business model and long term thinking is often in short supply.

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