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  1. #1881
    Ok, much better results this time.
    I plugged the controller into it's own outlet rather than a power strip and
    the Nordic Track motor kept running, dimmed the lights though.
    It was able to do 13 IPM just like the 1100 watt motor, bogged at 14.
    Quite impressed with it and seeing how it's lighter and goes 1200 rpm faster,
    this puppy will stay in use.
    Now to get the regular set of pulleys done and get back to work.
    Hoss

    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ea6Hj0GYc]G0704 Nordic Track Treadmill Motor Hogging Tests.wmv - YouTube[/ame]
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    Hoss, this is a 1" doc at full width of the tool? How about a .25 doc at 55% width demo at what ever speed you could attain?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006
    Ok, much better results this time.
    I plugged the controller into it's own outlet rather than a power strip and
    the Nordic Track motor kept running, dimmed the lights though.
    It was able to do 13 IPM just like the 1100 watt motor, bogged at 14.
    Quite impressed with it and seeing how it's lighter and goes 1200 rpm faster,
    this puppy will stay in use.
    Now to get the regular set of pulleys done and get back to work.
    Hoss

    Video Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3ea6Hj0GYc
    Sounds like the Nordic Track motor pulls more amps than the other motors. Can you check and see how many amps it pulls at 13 IPM
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  4. #1884
    Quote Originally Posted by Fastest1 View Post
    Hoss, this is a 1" doc at full width of the tool? How about a .25 doc at 55% width demo at what ever speed you could attain?
    Maybe with the new pulleys, I'd need 6000 rpm at 95 ipm to equal the same mmr.
    Hoss
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  5. #1885
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor9220 View Post
    Sounds like the Nordic Track motor pulls more amps than the other motors. Can you check and see how many amps it pulls at 13 IPM
    My meter only goes to 10 amps, the 1100 watt is rated at 12.3.
    The math from the label suggests it's 13 amps.
    Hoss
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006

    My meter only goes to 10 amps, the 1100 watt is rated at 12.3.
    The math from the label suggests it's 13 amps.
    Hoss
    Wow. That's allot. What was the other motors rated at?
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  7. #1887
    Quote Originally Posted by Connor9220 View Post
    Wow. That's allot. What was the other motors rated at?

    Uh, the 1100 watt motor is rated 12.3 amps, the 600 watt would be 6.6.
    The kbmm is good for 25 amps.
    Hoss
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    The Kbmm might be good for 25A but it may require more cooling at high loading.

    The way a lot of controllers are set up is the board is the same across a product line but the cooling increases as the current rating is raised.

    As the tread mill motor gets some heavy CNC it would be good thing to check the controller temp after a long run. Fans are cheep...

  9. #1889
    Quote Originally Posted by arizonavideo View Post
    The Kbmm might be good for 25A but it may require more cooling at high loading.

    The way a lot of controllers are set up is the board is the same across a product line but the cooling increases as the current rating is raised.

    As the tread mill motor gets some heavy CNC it would be good thing to check the controller temp after a long run. Fans are cheep...

    It's good for 25 A using a heatsink as the manual says which mine is attached to.
    It'll be installed in a nice fan cooled enclosure one of these days.
    Let's not forget these are extreme limits tests not everyday normal operation tests, it will have a much easier time normally.
    Hoss
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    My meter only goes to 10 amps, the 1100 watt is rated at 12.3.
    The math from the label suggests it's 13 amps.
    Hoss
    Man that's getting pretty close to your breaker rating on most circuits. When I redo my shed as a shop I was planning on dropping a circuit to each machine. I guess if I do one of these motors I will go ahead and make it 20A wiring for the headroom.
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    I've got to get a electrician or a skinny guy to go under my crawl space and splice a wire that was cut years ago. I had some plumbers move my Washer/Dry to different part of house.. They were just going to move the 10/2 line for the dry so, they cut it.. then discovered it was going to be a pain to move it and left it like that and ran a new line. So, I have this perfectly good 10/2 line under the house straight from the panel, that's 15' short and I can't get under their to splice it together. Ugg. I even made sure it's wired on the opposite phase than the supply that's in my shop now to help eliminate draw-down when two devices start up at the same time..
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    About which topic you are discussing wire and amp and many things.Can anyone explain the main topic of this thread.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by webbhardwaj View Post
    About which topic you are discussing wire and amp and many things.Can anyone explain the main topic of this thread.
    Thanks
    The topic of this thread is Hoss's G0704 and what I do to and with it and anything else
    I care to talk about whether it relates or not. mmkay?
    Hoss
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    Quote Originally Posted by webbhardwaj View Post
    About which topic you are discussing wire and amp and many things.Can anyone explain the main topic of this thread.
    Thanks
    Sorry, I did get a little off topic in regards to Hoss's G0704 machine.. We were talking about the amps and draw of the motors.. and made me think about my situation with the power in my shop.
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    Hoss,

    How tall do I need to make the Standoff's for the Z axis, direct drive with stock screws? I found the measurement for Phase 2, but, I wasn't sure that would work with Stock screws or not. I've made 1 set of standoff's and my X and Y mounts.. now to make the X and Z standoff's.

    Thanks, Connor
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  16. #1896
    Connor, don't worry about webbhardwaj, seems just another troll making aspersions with a brand new account.
    The Z standoffs should be 2.375.
    Hoss
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    Quote Originally Posted by hoss2006 View Post
    Connor, don't worry about webbhardwaj, seems just another troll making aspersions with a brand new account.
    The Z standoffs should be 2.375.
    Hoss
    Yea, no worries..

    Okay, that somewhere on the CD? The ones for Phase 2 are 2.0" for Nema 23 (570) and 2.275 for the Nema 34 (640)..

    I have to make 3.0" for the X still and I already made the Y's @ ~ 2.25"

    I'm assuming they don't have to 100% exact.. As they're a little room giving the couplers etc..
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  18. #1898
    Yeah you have an 1/8 leeway.
    It's not on the disc, wasn't a tested option.
    Hoss
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    I don't think most people will have power problems but it is really a huge improvement to run a new piece of 10 gauge wire to a 20A breaker and a HD outlet.

    My 2hp table saw used to blow the 15A all the time and slow down fairly easy when cutting down tree stumps...... but the 20A breaker and new wire delivers much more power. Many house have 14 gauge run through two or three outlets before it gets to your shop and the voltage will drop quite a bit delivering a lot less power. A new run of 10 or 12 gauge if you have lots of machines is always a good idea.

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    Hoss, isn't that Norditrac motor good for 2.5 + HP? Is it the controller the limiting factor. Sorry, I haven't messed with the DC controllers much.

    Richard

    Quote Originally Posted by arizonavideo View Post
    The Kbmm might be good for 25A but it may require more cooling at high loading.

    The way a lot of controllers are set up is the board is the same across a product line but the cooling increases as the current rating is raised.

    As the tread mill motor gets some heavy CNC it would be good thing to check the controller temp after a long run. Fans are cheep...

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