[AtomicBeaker]

Hey all,

I'm looking to get an X3 (Grizzly G0463) and cnc it myself, but I'm not sure about the best way to get it into my house. My driveway's dirt and gravel, so a pallet jack is out. Is the X3s crate easy enough to slide on gravel, maybe with a plywood sled?

Thanks!

[hoss2006]

Why not get a Lawn and Garden Cart.
Lowes has one for $80 that can carry 1200lbs.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...180&lpage=none
They have this one for $65 that can carry 500lbs.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...218&lpage=none
This is what I would have used if I didn't already have a trailer for my riding mower. At 350lbs ish, You and a buddy should be able to lift it on and off the cart. I plan to make a gantry like this guy did to make jobs like this a lot easier next time.
Hoss

[philbur]

Put some boards down.

Phil

Hey all,

I'm looking to get an X3 (Grizzly G0463) and cnc it myself, but I'm not sure about the best way to get it into my house. My driveway's dirt and gravel, so a pallet jack is out. Is the X3s crate easy enough to slide on gravel, maybe with a plywood sled?

Thanks!

[InspirationTool]

That garden cart looks great for moving it, but you still have to lift it.

I was lifting just an X2 by myself, and was very glad to have bought a engine hoist at a local auto parts shop. It's not the weight as much as how hard it is to get a grip on the thing.

Please note, the cheap Pep Boys engine hoist has a bad reputation for failing. I suggest giving the crane you get a good hard look in respect to how loads are distributed.

-Jeff

[in2steam]

Hey all,

I'm looking to get an X3 (Grizzly G0463) and cnc it myself, but I'm not sure about the best way to get it into my house. My driveway's dirt and gravel, so a pallet jack is out. Is the X3s crate easy enough to slide on gravel, maybe with a plywood sled?

Thanks!

If you are getting lift gate service, talk real nice to driver, and offer a tip, as long as his truck won't get stuck or hit anything more then likely they will pull up to your garage/door. Liftgate trucks in my area tend to call in the morning and an hour or so in advance I had a shaper delivered that way and the driver went out of his way to help me get it close to the door($20 later). Otherwise have a truck waiting to transfer to it, a small pickup will do(don't trust the tailgate straps) but if you do that you can save yourself and pick it up at the depot allso they will help you load it there with a fork truck. My crate was dock delivered and was not all that solid, pushing on it would more then likely destroy it. The lower part of the pallet was fairly flimsy, I would not trust it(1x6 's), I am parting my machine its going to go home from work in pieces after this blasted snow stops.....

chris

[epineh]

The tail gate lifter's are good, also you could get a truck with a Hiab on the back, you know those mini crane arms they bolt onto the back of some trucks, we used one of those to drop a piano off last time we moved house, well not drop exactly but you know what I mean

They extend a surprisingly long way, we managed to get the piano a long way onto the concrete carport and wheeled it from there.

Or an allterrain fork would do it, but I guess they aren't exactly free either... good luck

Russell.

[digits]

The tail gate lifter's are good, also you could get a truck with a Hiab on the back, you know those mini crane arms they bolt onto the back of some trucks, we used one of those to drop a piano off last time we moved house, well not drop exactly but you know what I mean

They extend a surprisingly long way, we managed to get the piano a long way onto the concrete carport and wheeled it from there.

Or an allterrain fork would do it, but I guess they aren't exactly free either... good luck

Russell.

Speaking of pianos - don't do this:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/6541457.stm - ouch!

Having transported and lugged my much smaller X-1 up a flight of stairs, I'd say that the awkward shape is as much of a problem as the weight - TBH it would have been easier to lift in the crate despite the extra 10kg that would have entailed.

If you are going to disassemble the mill to make carrying it easier, just remember that as soon as you unbolt the column it will topple forwards and attempt to squash you! This is where an engine hoist would be handy - unfortunately for me they weigh about 70kg/150lb themselves!

[epineh]

Lol, I wonder if those guys got paid, heh

Piano's must be cursed, the one I mentioned actually got destroyed (along with the rest of our house) in a tropical cyclone a couple years after being moved...but it wasn't worth quite as much as the one in those photo's.

Russell.

[dleroi]

Hey all,

I'm looking to get an X3 (Grizzly G0463) and cnc it myself, but I'm not sure about the best way to get it into my house.

Well, you are going to want to take it apart to clean and lube it. So, why not carry it in in pieces?

[AtomicBeaker]

Thanks for all the great suggestions!

Hoss - The lawn cart is a great idea! Pneumatic tires would be perfect for my driveway. I'm concerned about the high center of gravity though, because I forgot to mention, but my driveway's pretty uneven. I found this hand truck that'd probably do the trick, though:
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...019&lpage=none
What do you think?

Jeff - An engine hoist is definitely on my list of "someday" things. It looks like it would be an amazingly handy tool to have around.

Delroi - I had thought of that, but then I realized that I live in New England. If it doesn't get delivered on just the right day, chances are it'll be raining(nuts).

[in2steam]

Thanks for all the great suggestions!

Hoss - The lawn cart is a great idea! Pneumatic tires would be perfect for my driveway. I'm concerned about the high center of gravity though, because I forgot to mention, but my driveway's pretty uneven. I found this hand truck that'd probably do the trick, though:
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...019&lpage=none
What do you think?

Jeff - An engine hoist is definitely on my list of "someday" things. It looks like it would be an amazingly handy tool to have around.

Delroi - I had thought of that, but then I realized that I live in New England. If it doesn't get delivered on just the right day, chances are it'll be raining(nuts).

With the amount of cosmo that comes on them, I would not worry too much. After all it comes across the ocean in a container.
chris

[FlyingIllini]

Get several broom handles and roll it on them.

[hoss2006]

Hey Atomic,
I have that exact same hand truck from lowes.
Ive moved some pretty bulky things with it. I moved a fridge
from the back yard into the basement(my yard is pretty uneven too)
I tied it to the hand truck with a strap like this to keep it from sliding off.
http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?actio...400&lpage=none
The hand truck would also come in handy for more things later on, more so than the lawn cart probably would.
Hoss

[Deviant]

Me and my buddy picked up the x3 from my truck and lowered it to the ground.

Then picked it up and placed it on a cart.

Once on the cart, we moved it to the table.

It's heavy, but not unmanageable.

If it is too heavy, you can take it apart in pieces and reassably.

((I.e. remove the table))

[Zumba]

Atomic, at under 400 lbs, this machine should be very easy to move. What I would do is screw the crate to a piece of plywood and then just drag the plywood with a rope via truck, tractor, etc. A 5-10 dollar sheet of plywood is more than sufficient. It'll distribute the load such that the crate doesn't dig into the ground.

Or you can go screw two 2x4s to the crate, get three buddies and move it Arc of the Covenant/Tabernacle style.

[in2steam]

Atomic, at under 400 lbs, this machine should be very easy to move. What I would do is screw the crate to a piece of plywood and then just drag the plywood with a rope via truck, tractor, etc. A 5-10 dollar sheet of plywood is more than sufficient. It'll distribute the load such that the crate doesn't dig into the ground.

Or you can go screw two 2x4s to the crate, get three buddies and move it Arc of the Covenant/Tabernacle style.

You don't live any were near snow do you?
If you tried that anywhere were the frost has come out(which is currently just about every were north of mason dixon line) you are going to go about 3 inches. Even on ski''s they will dig in, unless you have some seriously hard packed (and flat)traffic bond or crushed stone.
The Indiana Jones method won't work real well if his crate is anything like mine.
chris

[Zumba]

The OP mentioned dirt, gravel, and potential rain. I think snow has been ruled out.

I have no idea what the X3 crate looks like. Got pics?

[JFettig]

I cleaned mine up and tore it down and took it in in pieces, column, head, base, table and saddle and they were all manageable, especially with 2 people. It all went back together real well because most of the important stuff was pinned.

also, I took the motor off and the control box and carried those in separately too.

Jon

[AtomicBeaker]

With the amount of cosmo that comes on them, I would not worry too much. After all it comes across the ocean in a container.

Good point, I forgot how well protected these machines have to be.

move it Arc of the Covenant/Tabernacle style

But then if I look inside, won't my face melt off?

I had actually planned to buy it in the middle of winter this year, just so that I could use a toboggan to slide it around on the snow. But we had such a poor winter as far as that goes that my driveway was muck and ice most of the time, so that didn't work out. Now that the driveway's dried out the dirt and rocks are packed together pretty hard, so I figure that hand truck plus the tie down strap that Hoss suggested ought to do the trick. Don't worry, I'll post pictures

[in2steam]

The OP mentioned dirt, gravel, and potential rain. I think snow has been ruled out.

I have no idea what the X3 crate looks like. Got pics?

Mine was around 40" x40" by 40" with some less than 1/4 ply and some 1x6 framing it. The one bys on the skid were about half way broken when I got it, the shipping guy told me that was intact when he got it, but he broke the bottom pulling out the forks, it still in the box at work behind about a dozen pallets of stock for work, if i have a camera handy i will snap pictures. It won't be untill mid next week.
chris